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Old 06-21-10, 02:02 PM
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At a media breakfast in Los Angeles this morning, Hyundai Motor America president John Krafcik let slip that the Korean automaker expects to breach the 40 miles-per-gallon barrier with its forthcoming small sports coupe. Conveniently, if they can reach that performance target, that would best the new 2011 Honda CR-Z, which, despite its hybrid powertrain, achieves just 36/39 city/highway when equipped with a CVT and 31/37 with a manual gearbox. The as-yet-unnamed Hyundai coupe (the nameplates Veloster and Tiburon are still up for discussion) will achieve those figures with a conventional four-cylinder engine, eschewing the added cost, complexity and weight of a gas-electric system.

Likening the forthcoming model to a long-distance runner, Krafcik promises that not only will this Hyundai best the Honda in fuel economy, it will also deliver better performance as well as added utility (read: rear seats and better access). Given that it won't have the cost penalty of a hybrid drivetrain (a 140-horsepower, 1.6-liter engine is expected), we'd be surprised if it doesn't come in at a lower price-point, as well.
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In addition to sipping gas, Krafcik emphasized to Autoblog that a key mission for the affordable coupe will be enticing the world's young and increasingly auto-ambivalent consumers with additional technolog – all Velosters will come with a large screen on the dashboard as standard equipment, presumably to manage connectivity features in addition to more traditional vehicle functions.

With 40 mpg practicality and superior utility, it would appear that the Veloster not only has a shot at taking on Honda's CR-Z, but also more conventional economy cars like the Ford Fiesta, perhaps trading a bit of practicality in favor of edgier coupe styling and (hopefully) greater performance.
 
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That shouldn't be a hard thing to do with a handful of other small cars already breaking the 40mpg barrier (namely the Fiesta/Focus/Cruze among others).
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Hyundai has the capacity and know-how to pull it off.
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40mpg barrier?
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Whats more impressive, IMO, is that their Sonata Hybrid is expected to break the 40mpg highway barrier come EPA certification time. Its the first time an EPA classified "large" car to break into the 40 mpg barrier. And all this using a conventional 6 speed automatic (instead of the class standard CVT) And the car wasnt designed to be a dedicated hybrid vehicle like the Prius (which is a midsize car by EPA).

http://www.thecarconnection.com/mart...uld-hit-40-mpg

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^^ we have a sonata thread. FYI The Fusion/Lincoln MKZ broke 40 MPG and the Sonata is no bigger inside.
 
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
That shouldn't be a hard thing to do with a handful of other small cars already breaking the 40mpg barrier (namely the Fiesta/Focus/Cruze among others).
This car will be using a 1.6 GDI with 140 hp (estimated)

Chevy cruze uses a 1.4 Turbo 138 horsepower and 148 lb-ft. of torque.

Fiesta uses a 1.6 GDI but only produces 120 hp and 109 ft-lb of torque.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
^^ we have a sonata thread. FYI The Fusion/Lincoln MKZ broke 40 MPG and the Sonata is no bigger inside.
Unless I'm wrong, Fusion hybrid broke the city mileage barrier not the highway.


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Ford Fusion Hybrid 41 city/36 hwy (EPA certified)

Hyundai Sonata Hybrid 37city/39 highway (preliminary)

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fus...m/?trim=hybrid

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/future-cars.aspx

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Originally Posted by ConceptVBS
This car will be using a 1.6 GDI with 140 hp (estimated)

Chevy cruze uses a 1.4 Turbo 138 horsepower and 148 lb-ft. of torque.

Fiesta uses a 1.6 GDI but only produces 120 hp and 109 ft-lb of torque.
The Focus has 155hp with 40mpg, and the Focus is a bigger car than this will be. I'm not going to nitpick the numbers though. I'm just saying that this isn't anything new or spectacular. It really just goes to show how far behind the competition Honda has gotten...
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Originally Posted by ConceptVBS
Unless I'm wrong, Fusion hybrid broke the city mileage barrier not the highway.
According to the preliminary numbers I've seen the Sonata is only going to get 38 or 39 highway with the city numbers being lower.

Anyway most people drive 55-60% city so a higher city number is highly attractive, and much more impressive IMO.
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
The Focus has 155hp with 40mpg, and the Focus is a bigger car than this will be. I'm not going to nitpick the numbers though. I'm just saying that this isn't anything new or spectacular. It really just goes to show how far behind the competition Honda has gotten...
This is news to me....especially since the smaller Fiesta barely makes 40 MPG with only 120 HP on tap.
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
This is news to me....especially since the smaller Fiesta barely makes 40 MPG with only 120 HP on tap.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/15/t...-jetta-w-poll/

2012 Ford Focus

* Dimensions (inches): length: 179, width: 72, height: 58, wheelbase: 104
* Engines: 2.0-liter naturally aspirated inline-four with 155 horsepower, 145 pound-feet of torque, mated to a five-speed manual or six-speed dual-clutch automatic; 2.0-liter EcoBoost turbocharged four reportedly in the works with 240-plus hp and a six-speed manual
* Fuel economy: 40 mpg highway targeted for base 2.0-liter model
* Available features: SYNC, active park assist, navigation
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