A couple of nagging questions ran through my mind Today

1) Just wondering if all of the negative publicity regarding Toyota will have any long term sales effects on Honda and Nissan. 2) How does Nissan reliability and durability in general, compare to Honda and Toyota products now?

 

It may have a few customers thinking about it, but in the end I dont think most people pay attention to stuff like this. We forget that most people are not into cars like we are into cars

 

Well one thing is Honda doesn't offer half the vehicles Toyota offers, so Toyota customers can't jump to Honda.

For instance you want a Camry hybrid, you can't go to Honda. You want a Tundra competitor, you can't go to Honda. etc etc

With Nissan, their forte has sport/style/power. Their reliablity/quality has been below average for decades now in every survey.

I can see FORD actually getting some benefits here as they offer similar vehicles in most instances.

Also don't forget Hyundai.

Overall, no I don't see any great change with buyers. I think they will let Toyota have this one BIG slip up.

If it happens again and it happens in the near future, we could see some problems.

 

The pedal issue won't jump as many as people think, however the pedal issue is the first major issue that has seriously exposed Toyota's cost-cutting/quality issue and it has put the issue on the radar of the mass public and media and not just internet forums.......If Toyota has another issue like this, then there will be serious hell to pay.

 

I just recently saw a Top 10 "trending now" list from Yahoo of the most-searched items right now.

"Honda recall" was at #3 and the Toyota situation was not even in the Top 10 most-searched items!

This implies the public is not overly concerned regarding the Toyota situation right now, if more people are searching about the Honda recall.

 

Compared to Toyota and Nissan, Honda has a lame product lineup - save for the Accord, Civic and the CR-V. The Pilot and Ridgeline don't offer anything special, while the Fit and Insight are just awful - but the Fit does drive much better than the Yaris. The Insight is irrelevant, Honda IMO should just rethink their hybrid and SUV strategy.

Nissan's forte has always been sports cars - and the 3x0Z/GT-R are fine examples of which. The Sentra, Versa, Altima and Maxima are decent products. The Frontier is just as good as the Tacoma. However, Nissan does have few flops - the Quest and the Titan/Armada. And Nissan doesn't have the same reliability as Toyota and Honda in the long run.

 

The Pilot is a great SUV. I preferred the bland styling of the 1st gen, but nonetheless, it's in the top of its class.
The Odyssey is also another great vehicle.

 

No that's because the situation is large enough that most of the public already know about it without having to search. Most people already know Toyota is associated with unintended acceleration. The Honda recall is news to most people, but I suspect after a while, like Toyota's incident, it won't be searched as often.

 

The old Pilot is a great SUV - tranny issues aside. The new Pilot is sadly a departure from the old one - but mechanically it's an improvement. It looks 100x better with a different grille!

The Ody too is great - I actually prefer the looks of the Ody better than the Sienna. The Sienna however does have a better drivetrain

 

Pilot is top of class based on what criteria exactly?

That's not my point. My point was people are not that worried about the whole Toyota situation. Toyota only just announced what the fix will be, and I'm sure a lot of people still don't know yet about the fix. Yet surprisingly, the Toyota situation was not a heavily-searched topic.

 

Present sales yes.
Long term no unless "the shim" doesn't work.

 

I dont see why would bad Toyota press rub off Honda and Nissan and other Japanese manufacturers... Mitsu and Nissan have never been helped with Toyota and Honda success before... I think customers are smart enough to know Toyota and Nissan are not the same, just as Ford and Chrysler are not the same.

 

I think he's saying that some Toyota customers could defect to the other Japanese brands.

 

The term "toyota fix" is number one on Google's hot topic. Only Taylor swift's recent grammy award was second on the list. Either way most people read the news once and don't bother to read the updates. It's a trend for any news really so it's not shocking that Toyota had the headlines first, and now Honda.



Toyota's incident won't really affect Honda/Nissan's sales if any at all. Many people will tend to stay within the Japanese circle. It's the same mentality of the die-hard domestic guys. Just as an example, when I was an active lurker on the Ford forum, most guys over there said they'll jump into a Chevy/Dodge long before they would even consider a Toyota/Honda/Nissan. I suspect there are just as many pro-Japaneses as there are pro-Americans.

 

Yes that was my question