Must you stop to turn?
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Exactly, that's why freeways and expressways have limited access (meaning very few driveways and uncontrolled crossings).
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Since it wasn't obvious, I'm not a moron. Therefore I was speaking of un-marked intersections and open parking lots
For those of you thinking I'm under 30... I'm flattered!
That you think I'm texting or tailgating, I'd be offended but I know you don't know me. That you think my perception is shaped by the IS-F or my GS? Maybe but I'm a big boat man and my big boat can't do turns like that.I'm not talking highly modified (read lowered) cars here folks. I get that and am even smart enough to immediately recognize they will probably take it slow. I'm also not talking about a car that has plants that can topple over, or old people in the car, and there isn't a shopping center with kids running around that they or I could hit, and the visibility isn't an issue (it's not snowing in dense fog)!
No, what I mean is a wide open street or parking lot. Think Honda Accord or Chevy Malibu. Think turning at 2-3 MPH and sometimes even coming to a stop while the *** end of the car is still hanging out in the lane of traffic (there is more to your car than where you are sitting). I'm talking about moderate. Something I can do in my boat of a car. Is it too much to take the turn at 5-10 MPH?
Like I said, I feel (fell?) better.
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Seems like this type of thing would depend entirely on the situation. Certain cases you might not have a choice but to come to a complete stop like for instance if you happen to get to the entrance at the same time a pedestrian is walking across or if its a small entrance/exit and someone is exiting etc... But yeah otherwise coming to a complete stop is totally unnecessary.
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No, what I mean is a wide open street or parking lot. Think Honda Accord or Chevy Malibu. Think turning at 2-3 MPH and sometimes even coming to a stop while the *** end of the car is still hanging out in the lane of traffic (there is more to your car than where you are sitting). I'm talking about moderate. Something I can do in my boat of a car. Is it too much to take the turn at 5-10 MPH?
i've seen it everywhere, but usually in packed parking lots.
but nothing i can do bout it.
now if it's an empty lot, and she hangs her *** out on the street, then yeah i wouldn't be happy
but seriously, is it not fun to test your 60-0 emergency stopping distance with those brembos?
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But look closer at the stop sign. Don't you recall from driver's ed--if there's a white border around the edge, it's optional.
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Depends on the parking lot, in some parking lot, as soon as you enter, there is traffic going accorss. So, if you are not familar with the parking lot, you should really be careful when entering.
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Originally Posted by Mr Johnson
Holy cow, leave the thread for a couple hours...
Since it wasn't obvious, I'm not a moron. Therefore I was speaking of un-marked intersections and open parking lots
Since it wasn't obvious, I'm not a moron. Therefore I was speaking of un-marked intersections and open parking lots
For those of you thinking I'm under 30... I'm flattered!
That you think I'm texting or tailgating, I'd be offended but I know you don't know me. That you think my perception is shaped by the IS-F or my GS? Maybe but I'm a big boat man and my big boat can't do turns like that.
I won't say you are tailgating. The usual definition of "tailgating" used to be following less than one car length for every 10 MPH, but, in today's dense traffic, that is no longer possible in many areas. There's just too many cars on the same stretch of road, and people keep cutting in in front of you. Brakes, in general, are also better on today's cars than they were years ago.
No, what I mean is a wide open street or parking lot. Think Honda Accord or Chevy Malibu. Think turning at 2-3 MPH and sometimes even coming to a stop while the *** end of the car is still hanging out in the lane of traffic
Like I said, I feel better.
haha...I know you are not 30 Mr Johnson but then again I am not either so I have to be careful. I have driven with and around him so I know exactly what the OP is talking about. I knew this thread would go a different direction. It seems, IMO, that this has become more and more of any everday "issue" then the occasional person hauling something or an older driver.
I guess its are older age Mr Johnson
haha...
I guess its are older age Mr Johnson
haha...
They really dont have a choice do they
haha...
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I hate it too as I'm trying to drift in the mall parking lot and this asshat is going like 2.5 MPH : J/K
I agree but people cannot drive. Period. its sad we have to share the roads with them. I say they should only be allowed to use mass transit!!!
I agree but people cannot drive. Period. its sad we have to share the roads with them. I say they should only be allowed to use mass transit!!!
here's why everyone should not roll through a right turn.
1. to avoid the car making a left, who happens not to see you
2. to avoid the car exiting the lot who doesn't see you
3. to avoid the pedestrian who doesn't see you
Patience can save you thousands in fines and lawsuits and premiums. Put those Brembo's to good use
From there, car two would have to yield to vehicles coming off the roadway.
No, what I mean is a wide open street or parking lot. Think Honda Accord or Chevy Malibu. Think turning at 2-3 MPH and sometimes even coming to a stop while the *** end of the car is still hanging out in the lane of traffic (there is more to your car than where you are sitting). I'm talking about moderate. Something I can do in my boat of a car. Is it too much to take the turn at 5-10 MPH?
The ability to modulate braking, speed, and the line of the turn, prove too much...and so, they naturally go slower. It's part of the reason cars are built with a bias for understeer...slow-in, is safer for most drivers confidence levels.
I hate that **** too. its like they feel that they are going to spin out or something. well I dont mind it if there turning into a parking lot but onto another street when traffics clear it pisses me off.
and another thing I hate, must you get into the right lane just to make a left turn? its like you cant make the damn turn while staying in your own god damn lane? ****
and another thing I hate, must you get into the right lane just to make a left turn? its like you cant make the damn turn while staying in your own god damn lane? ****