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Old May 7, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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So may I ask how the TDI's 30/41 mpg rating is comparable to the Prius'
48/51 mpg rating???

Combined mpg is 34 for the TDI and 50 for the Prius and they think racing the two is proving something?

This is laughable.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
That FWD burnout was pathetic. Seriously.
Yeah, I was thoroughly impressed by a burnout with a manual transmission car, lol. Uhm, you can do that with just about any car with a stick. Idiots.

And does anyone really expect a Prius to be able to burnout with it's auto? Why would you even want it to?

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Old May 7, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
So may I ask how the TDI's 30/41 mpg rating is comparable to the Prius'
48/51 mpg rating???

Combined mpg is 34 for the TDI and 50 for the Prius and they think racing the two is proving something?

This is laughable.
Start off with some required reading. The popular mechanics article on the last page should suffice. Point being, the EPA vastly underestimates the TDI's mileage figures, a phenomenon even they have acknowledged.

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Yeah, I was thoroughly impressed by a burnout with a manual transmission car, lol. Uhm, you can do that with just about any car with a stick. Idiots.
The entire point is that you can even get a stick with a Jetta TDI, a vehicle that also [happens] to achieve 45mpg. Not some weird CVT, not some slush box, a tired and true manual - or the world class DSG. That's the point of the "burnout". It seemed pretty clear to me.

Originally Posted by f=ma
Also I don't think toyota is worried at all. When was the last time a Jetta started a trend?
Um, the Golf [which underpins the Jetta] has been a world benchmark for generations. If you want quite possibly the most integral and successful vehicles in VW's model portfolio, it's the Golf. If you want to talk about "starting trends", how about standard side airbags (1999), or curtain airbags (2002)? Or available turbo powerplants (2000)? Or standard traction control and ESP (2003)? The Jetta has long been at the forefront of it's class for not just passive/active safety systems, but refinement and road manners. Every revision is methodically studied by the competition, from the suspension (copied by GM) to the interior fit and finish, which no small car still seems to be able to topple even today. There's lots of little things that the competition took as well - folding transponder keys were standard back in 2000, Honda/Toyota still cheap out and don't do this (mazda does). Look at those VW-esque roof antennas on the Corolla. That was a trend started on the Golf/Passat in the late 90s.

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Old May 7, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Guys lets debate without having to Rafer Alston one another
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Old May 7, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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i love how they displayed the results in those bar graphs.

here is 0.8 vs 0.81

0.8- X
0.81-XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

YEAH BABY YAH!! jetta wins
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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^Lol, yeah it was obnoxious.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 1conbaba
So Honda desgined and patented the greenest most efficient desiel technology and will just well put it on the shelves!
its hard to justify diesel when its 20-30 cents more than premium, and 50 cents over regular
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Old May 8, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. j
While the Jetta TDi has been out for awhile, it's powertrain is all-new. To put it in perspective the PM comparison is the latest and most advanced diesel technology vs Toyota's previous generation hybrid.
VW is using Mercedes' BlueTec under license - the biggest difference is the Jetta TDI doesn't need urea, while the Touareg TDI and the GL/ML diesel needs urea.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
its hard to justify diesel when its 20-30 cents more than premium, and 50 cents over regular
A Accord iDTEC will negate the need for the fugly Insight.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nthach
A Accord iDTEC will negate the need for the fugly Insight.
the idtec accord will get rid of the oxymoron torquey honda lol
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Old May 8, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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^^THey are not bringing it over though. I think its great you can choose between a Jetta or Prius, kudos to VW and Toyota. I do wish VW would focus on their product and not TOyota though
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Old May 8, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Yep, it just ends up being free advertising for Toyota.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
^^THey are not bringing it over though. I think its great you can choose between a Jetta or Prius, kudos to VW and Toyota. I do wish VW would focus on their product and not TOyota though


Thought I would say I'd wish Toyota would put more effort into making the Prius fun to drive!
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Old May 8, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Lightbulb Another Commercial

This one targets Mercedes & basically any other brand except maybe BMW bc I think that they will take care of the maintenance for you as well:

Meet the VW Commercial
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Old May 8, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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wow.....I never really think of this before but there is some similarity.
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