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Old 09-27-09, 01:51 PM
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Rumors saying a V6 wont be offered in the U.S. The V6 models account for a small amount of sales. Which is probably very true. I remember Toyota saying the Camry Hybrid outsells the V6 Camry by a nice margin as well. And they only sell about 2-3000 Camry Hybrids per month.

The car is freakin home run inside and out, but no V6 would make it a deal breaker for some including me (even if it is a small amount of people).
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No V6 in the US, really? If that is true, it won't just mean a small amount of sales lost, more importantly it will negatively impact the image and reputation of the Sonata.

To be taken seriously in the midsize sedan market in North America, you need to offer a V6.
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Old 09-28-09, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Rumors saying a V6 wont be offered in the U.S.
If the V6 is not offer in the US, the land of the bigger is better, where is it offer then?
Hyundai really should re-think this one. Its not about how many V6 they sell, its the option of being able to buy a V6.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
If the V6 is not offer in the US, the land of the bigger is better, where is it offer then?
Hyundai really should re-think this one. Its not about how many V6 they sell, its the option of being able to buy a V6.
Agreed (esp. if this car is aimed to rival the likes of Accord and Camry).

Hopefully, they might offer something like the 3.8 (from the Veracruz)
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According to a report by Wards, Hyundai Motor America will not offer a V6 engine in its next-generation Sonata mid-sized sedan lineup. The 2011 Hyundai Sonata will go on sale in the United States early next year.

Instead, the new Sonata will be offered with Hyundai’s new 2.4L Theta II GDI 4-cylinder gasoline engine that produces 175-hp and returns an estimated fuel-economy of 22/32 mpg (city/highway). All engines will be mated to a 6-speed automatic.

The new 2011 Hyundai Sonata for the U.S. market is expected to debut at the 2010 Detroit Auto Show in January.

Wards said that Hyundai is also nixing the V6 engine from its Tucson Crossover model.
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Old 09-28-09, 09:28 AM
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Odd move for sure.
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Old 09-28-09, 09:47 AM
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Wait, so possibly no V6 in the Tuscon, and no V6 in the new Sonata? Bad move IMHO. In the North American market, image is important. Not having a V6 for your volume midsize sedan does not project a good image. Every major midsize competitor offers a V6 in their sedan.

This makes me wonder about the Sonata's price. With no V6, how high will a loaded Sonata go? If it is high 20K range, it definitely won't be good for image.
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Old 09-28-09, 10:11 AM
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If the 4 cyl Sonata is going to cost around $29000 as many have speculated. A loaded Camry XLE I4 is $28000, a thousand dollar cheaper. Hyundai must have something up their sleeve, there is no way anyone would buy a Hyundai if it cost more than a Toyota. Maybe Hyundai is thinking somehow the Sonata can compete with the Avalon, well it would, especially with out a V6.
Hyundai is at a point where a lot of growing companies starts to make mistakes. Hyundai is aiming too high, they need to come back to earth alow down their growth. Build a solid reputattion 1st and then raise the price.

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Old 09-28-09, 10:44 AM
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I'm not convinced the 4 cylinder Sonata will be $29K.
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Old 09-28-09, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
I'm not convinced the 4 cylinder Sonata will be $29K.
The top of the line 2010 Sonata already MSRP at $29000, you dont think they will cut the price do you?
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Originally Posted by The G Man
If the 4 cyl Sonata is going to cost around $29000 as many have speculated. A loaded Camry XLE I4 is $28000, a thousand dollar cheaper. Hyundai must have something up their sleeve, there is no way anyone would buy a Hyundai if it cost more than a Toyota. Maybe Hyundai is thinking somehow the Sonata can compete with the Avalon, well it would, especially with out a V6.
Hyundai is at a point where a lot of growing companies starts to make mistakes. Hyundai is aiming too high, they need to come back to earth alow down their growth. Build a solid reputattion 1st and then raise the price.
Yes, I agree. Hyundai needs to be careful not to become complacent and arrogant, which they have already shown to be to a degree. Hyundai it does seem is starting to make some mistakes.
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The top of the line 2010 Sonata already MSRP at $29000, you dont think they will cut the price do you?
They wouldn't have to cut the price... a 2010 Sonata 4-cyl limited with every available option (including nav and premium paint) is still under 27k with destination.

I've also noticed sometimes manufacturers put extra effort into keeping prices low for new model introductions.

They like it when reviewers and consumers are amazed at how much more car they can get for little or no increase in sticker price from the previous generation.

Then after everyone's done raving about the value of the Sonata, they'll bump the price up every year for the next few years while nobody's paying attention anymore.
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Old 09-28-09, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The G Man
The top of the line 2010 Sonata already MSRP at $29000, you dont think they will cut the price do you?
I meant the bottom of the line, therefore I don't expect starting price for a 4 cylinder Sonata to be $29K.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
I meant the bottom of the line, therefore I don't expect starting price for a 4 cylinder Sonata to be $29K.
I agree. Its pricing will remain competitive (a few hundred below with more features) with its competition.
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Old 09-28-09, 03:32 PM
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Looks like dropping the V6 might have been because of a Turbo 4.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...4l-engine.html
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