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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Most likely, the fleet sales were way down because not as many people are travelling now and renting cars. So, rental car companies have little incentive to replace some of their older cars. Taxi companies are probably not as affected as much as rental firms, because people need cabs all the time, but Chrysler products are not widely sought after by cab drivers and cab companies because of their rather poor build quality.
Yes, I went to pick up a rental car at the SJ airport a couple of months ago, the place was stuffed with rental cars parked everywhere. I had never seen so many idle rental cars in one place.

Taxi drivers around here are buying lots of hybrids, favorite being the Prius. In city traffic driving thousands of miles per month they like the cost/mile. I rode in the backseat of one recently and comfort was adequate for 2.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Yes, I went to pick up a rental car at the SJ airport a couple of months ago, the place was stuffed with rental cars parked everywhere. I had never seen so many idle rental cars in one place.

Taxi drivers around here are buying lots of hybrids, favorite being the Prius. In city traffic driving thousands of miles per month they like the cost/mile. I rode in the backseat of one recently and comfort was adequate for 2.
Supposedly air travel and rental cars have taken a 10% hit, no surprise. But I wouldn't read too much into SJ airport rental lots. That layout is such an effed up mess it is always jammed and an embarassment if you have visitors come in from out of town.

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RON430
Supposed air travel and rental cars have taken a 10% hit, no surprise. But I wouldn't read too much into SJ airport rental lots. That layout is such an effed up mess it is always jammed and an embarassment if you have visitors come in from out of town.
Yes, SJ rental car area is a mess and has been for a long time, don't expect to improve until the airport project is finished. Obviously the poor fleet sales results are becoming apparent in this setting too and it was more packed than usual.

The sales results just confirmed my casual observations a couple of months ago.

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Assuming the GLK shows some sales strength, then BMW absolutely needs the new X3. Although LR2 and RDX sales (2 SUVs in this size category) probably have poor sales too.
Update: Looks like Mercedes GLK sales aren't especially strong so far:

January North American Sales Figures

1300 in US

237 in Canada
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Yes, SJ rental car area is a mess and has been for a long time, don't expect to improve until the airport project is finished. Obviously the poor fleet sales results are becoming apparent in this setting too and it was more packed than usual.

The sales results just confirmed my casual observations a couple of months ago.
Forgive the OT pull. I have customers that fly into SFO rather than go put up with SJC's rental car mess.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ferdinan
I know the economy is in bad shape but LOL at those numbers.

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   Sales BMW of North America, LLC, January 2009
                                                      YTD       YTD
                       Jan. 09 Jan. 08    %       Jan. 09   Jan. 08    %
        ------------------   -----  ------ -----        -----    ------ -----
    X3                     394   1,091 -63.9%         394     1,091 -63.9%
    X6                     266       0   N/A          266         0   N/A
        -----------------    -----   -----   ---        -----     -----   ---
Is a redesigned X3 on the way to justify the low numbers?
BMW wasted little time in reacting to the sales news, at least up here. I test drove an X3 yesterday and was shown the January rates and pricing. I got a call this morning stating that BMW had already dropped pricing and provided some new incentive program (I don't have the details yet).

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Does anybody have info on where bimmer is on supply of the new 7? I am assuming the pipeline for the old model is about dry but it doesn't look like the new one is really here yet. Can't say I've gone to the bimmer shop to see where they are but the new 7 was maybe tops of my list. At least until I read about the 5GT.

Genesis 1,056 - respectable. Don't know why I don't think it is great but it is very good especially when you take the current climate into effect. I know this is OT but I have to wonder about the Volt strategy (and hopes) seeing what is going on with the Prius which I still think will be the better all around vehicle.
When we were on our test drives we got to talking about the 7. Our sales rep mentioned that they should have one up here within the month and would be inviting us to some big launch event for it.

Originally Posted by IS-SV
Update: Looks like Mercedes GLK sales aren't especially strong so far:

January North American Sales Figures

1300 in US

237 in Canada
We also took a GLK out yesterday. Imho, the X3 is a much better vehicle than the Benz.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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[QUOTE=CDNROCKIES;4221437


We also took a GLK out yesterday. Imho, the X3 is a much better vehicle than the Benz.[/QUOTE]

Wow, IMHO I wouldn't own the dated X3 as it nears EOL/obsolescence.

But I haven't driven the new GLK, but based on your test drive, that doesn't sound too promising for Mercedes/GLK. They did a solid job on the 08 C-class, and the strong sales are there. But the puny premium SUV class hasn't shown any big sales numbers yet for anybody.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Forgive the OT pull. I have customers that fly into SFO rather than go put up with SJC's rental car mess.
In many cases they don't have a choice, international travel is very limited from SJ.
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Nissan North America Announces January Sales


FRANKLIN, Tenn., Feb. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) today reported sales for January of 53,884 units versus 76,605 units a year ago, a decrease of 29.7 percent. Sales of Nissan Division vehicles decreased 31.2 percent, while sales of Infiniti vehicles decreased by 17.7 percent.

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/...ANWORDMARKLOGO )

NISSAN HIGHLIGHTS

-- Nissan vehicles saw sales of 46,769 units in January compared with 67,961 units sold in January 2008, a 31.2 percent decrease.

-- The all-new 2009 370Z, Nissan's performance icon which went on sale in January, is off to a strong start with sales of 1,280 units, an increase of 47.0 percent versus prior-year levels.

-- The compact and versatile Rogue crossover saw sales of 5,802 units, an increase of 6.8 percent from January 2008.

INFINITI HIGHLIGHTS

-- Infiniti sales for January were 7,115 units, down from 8,644 a year ago, a decline of 17.7 percent.

-- Infiniti's crossovers experienced a strong January, with sales of the EX up 12.5 percent over the prior year with 776 units, and sales of the FX up 74.9 percent, at 1,417 units.

NNA INFORMATION

-- Combined sales for Nissan and Infiniti of 53,884 units, compared with last January's sales of 76,605 units, marked a decrease of 29.7 percent.

-- To ensure consistency in our global sales reporting, Nissan North America calculates monthly variances on a straight-percentage basis, unadjusted for the number of selling days in the month. This January had 26 selling days, and January 2008 had 25 selling days.


In North America, Nissan's operations include automotive styling,
engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing,
distribution and manufacturing. Nissan is dedicated to improving the
environment under the Nissan Green Program 2010, whose key priorities are
reducing CO2 emissions, cutting other emissions and increasing recycling.
More information on Nissan in North America and the complete line of Nissan
and Infiniti vehicles can be found online at www.nissanusa.com and
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    NISSAN DIVISION
                      January   January   Monthly   CYTD     CYTD     CYTD
                       2009       2008     %chg     2009     2008     %chg
    Nissan Division
     Total           46,769    67,961     -31.2    46,769   67,961    -31.2
    Versa             5,002     5,609     -10.8     5,002    5,609    -10.8
    Sentra            5,331     7,170     -25.6     5,331    7,170    -25.6
    Altima           14,135    21,635     -34.7    14,135   21,635    -34.7
    Maxima            2,646     3,797     -30.3     2,646    3,797    -30.3
    350Z              1,280       871      47.0     1,280      871     47.0
    GT-R                 94         0        NA        94        0       NA
    Total Car        28,488    39,082     -27.1    28,488   39,082    -27.1
    Frontier          1,603     4,064     -60.6     1,603    4,064    -60.6
    Titan             1,458     3,692     -60.5     1,458    3,692    -60.5
    Xterra            1,304     3,514     -62.9     1,304    3,514    -62.9
    Pathfinder        1,547     2,933     -47.3     1,547    2,933    -47.3
    Armada              717     1,677     -57.2       717    1,677    -57.2
    Rogue             5,802     5,435       6.8     5,802    5,435      6.8
    Murano            5,204     5,689      -8.5     5,204    5,689     -8.5
    Quest               646     1,875     -65.5       646    1,875    -65.5
    Total Truck      18,281    28,879     -36.7    18,281   28,879    -36.7
    North American
     produced        34,389    55,966     -38.6    34,389   55,966    -38.6
    Car              27,114    38,211     -29.0    27,114   38,211    -29.0
    Truck             7,275    17,755     -59.0     7,275   17,755    -59.0
    Import           12,380    11,995       3.2    12,380   11,995      3.2
    Car               1,374       871      57.7     1,374      871     57.7
    Truck            11,006    11,124      -1.1    11,006   11,124     -1.1


    INFINITI DIVISION
                     January   January   Monthly   CYTD     CYTD     CYTD
                      2009       2008     %chg     2009     2008     %chg

    Infiniti Division
     Total            7,115     8,644     -17.7     7,115    8,644    -17.7
    G Sedan           2,609     3,370     -22.6     2,609    3,370    -22.6
    G Coupe             900     1,551     -42.0       900    1,551    -42.0
    M                 1,176     1,423     -17.4     1,176    1,423    -17.4
    QX56                237       800     -70.4       237      800    -70.4
    EX                  776       690      12.5       776      690     12.5
    FX                1,417       810      74.9     1,417      810     74.9
    Total Car         4,685     6,344     -26.2     4,685    6,344    -26.2
    Total Truck       2,430     2,300       5.7     2,430    2,300      5.7


    NISSAN & INFINITI
                      January   January   Monthly   CYTD     CYTD     CYTD
                       2009      2008      %chg     2009     2008     %chg

    TOTAL VEHICLE     53,884    76,605    -29.7     53,884   76,605   -29.7
    Total Car         33,173    45,426    -27.0     33,173   45,426   -27.0
    Total Truck       20,711    31,179    -33.6     20,711   31,179   -33.6
    Selling days          26        25                  26       25


    * All numbers include Hawaii



SOURCE Nissan North America, Inc.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pagemaster
Well Lexus cars are down 37.7%. The trucks are not bad. But a start like this will make it very tought to hit 200,000 sales. I still predict they won't hit 200,000.
Lexus might or might not hit the 200,000 mark for 2009 but Lexus will sell more vehicles than BMW and Mercedes Benz...
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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January 2009 - Luxury Car Sales

Entry CUV
1. GLK - 1,300
2. RDX - 801
3. EX - 776
4. X3 - 394

Pre-Entry-Level
1. TSX - 2,406
2. C30/S40/V50 - 756
3. 1-Series - 716
4. A3 - 227

Entry-Level
1. 3 - 5,013
2. G - 3,509
3. CTS - 3,418
4. C - 3,032
5. ES - 2,971
6. A4/5 - 2,661
7. IS - 2,400
8. TL - 2,317
9. MKZ - 1,561
10. 9-3 - 523
11. S60 -275

Mid-Level
1. 5 - 2,596
2. E - 1,768
3. MKS - 1,535
4. M - 1,176
5. GS - 898
6. A6 - 776
7. S80 - 473
8. STS - 413
9. RL - 208
10. 9-5 - 101

Flagship-1
1. LS - 904
2. S-Class - 516
3. A8/S8 - 95
4. 7-Series - 23

Flagship-2
1. Lucerne - 2,759
2. Maxima - 2,646
3. Avalon - 2,119
4. G8 - 1,331
5. Passat - 1,132
6. CC - 1,072
7. Genesis - 1,056

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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As I said the new TL will fail, its horrid,period. This is a brand new 09 model that can't outsell its own smaller brother who has nearly half the sales goal. The older ES AND IS outsold the TL as well as most anything else that matters.
The CC and Genesis are doing well at 1k last month. The Genesis does that solid it seems. MAxima sales are good too as its the price of entry level luxury cars.

THankfully the IS has the "C" coming. The G37 has the convertible coming.

This is just bad. Wow
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Lexus 14,722
BMW 12,232
Benz 10,433
Cadillac 8,499
Acura 7,856
Infinti 7,115
Buick 6,969
Lincoln 6,091
Audi 4,722
Volvo 2,910
Saab 955
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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how can the TL now fail, hardly anyone even want to look at that car.

look at the LS, amazing sales number. although given it has swb, but it almost outsell the s class 2 to 1?

and what happened to the 7 series?! isn't it a new design?
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how can the TL now fail, hardly anyone even want to look at that car.

look at the LS, amazing sales number. although given it has swb, but it almost outsell the s class 2 to 1?

and what happened to the 7 series?! isn't it a new design?
TL is doing so bad, a $399 lease deal nationwide is here for it already. Dealers painting grills can't save it. The design is horrid, period and not responding with consumers, ESPECIALLY since people bought the last TL based on looks alone. The LS did double the S-class amount. Since LS leases are usually bad, it leads me to believe people BUY them too. The new 7 should be here by the spring as the new Z4 roadster.

Lexus has sprinted out ahead in January and I felt it was the predicting month of how this year was going to go.
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