Well I called a bud of mine who is works for a local Acura dealer. Seems this is true, there was a big meeting a few weeks ago by basically Acura/HOnda GMs/Dealer owners/executives basically saying forget Tier 1 its not going to happen. Dealers walked out pissed and actually distraught b/c they were told just last year this time Honda was finally going to truly invest in Acura and make them a true luxury brand. Some of the more vocal people went to town about the new styling and grills. Of course the economy was blamed and these same vocal people said we've been hearing promises for years.

 

For them to keep reporting this and that then change this and that, i don't know if it's even from Honda. If it is, do they really have that a big of a problem in making decisions?

 

i sure will miss the s2k

 

Didn't miss it and I know this will be misconstrued but I think that a lot of the opinions being voiced about Honda/Acura are based on the fact that we came to expect more and we have watched a lot of mistakes being made. Don't know if I would jump on the 20 year history of mistakes bandwagon, but I sure am not going to argue about the last five years or so.

My point about the economy is that I see no indication that any model by any mfr is going to increase their sales to any significant degree in this economy. Even if Honda/Acura or our buds in Detroit, get it absolutely right (which we probably both doubt) they aren't going to see much increase in sales until the economy in general picks up, and that is a ways off. After a year where people are put on pedestals in the automotive business if they only saw single digit declines in a models sales, the reality is its a tough environment out there. And that isn't going to work to Honda/Acuras benefit anytime soon.

 

i agree with GSteg. you can blame economy, as do all other manufacturers, but that doesn't make honda/acura look any better. they still fail big time for what the company is about and what they need to do

 

Last five years sounds about right since in my opinion I think Acura reached the high point with the debut of the last gen TSX and TL coupled with the success they've enjoyed with the MDX. Too bad that they didn't follow up with the RL and the pricing strategy totally killed a some-what capable car in the midsize luxury segment.

 

If I had a point to make, and I suspect that 1Sick agrees at least partly overall, it is that I have great respect for Honda/Acura, at least from times past. I really want them to make not only a competitor for the GS but the LS as well. And I would take it very seriously if they did it as I believe they are capable of doing. But with their more recent performance, I have little reason to believe that they would either make those vehicles or make them competitive products. And I still maintain, they won't be the only one tinkering with their product line if the economy does anything other than start to boom and zoom. And that's a pity. As a consumer, I like choice.

 

Saw this on another site. Sucks to know that this model........could have been. Oh well.

 

well it's a smart move financially...as long as they keep making ASIMO I'm happy haha

 

Damn, that would've been good one to replace S2K. The design is great, but they probably can't decide on an engine for it.

From the pic, that could've compete against the Audi, Z4, Saturn, in term of small coupe convertible.

Clearly Honda has no ***** to gamble. Remember when they cancel Accord Hybrid? and Toyota continue Hybrid on Camry & made big bucks during peak time.

Inconsistent in decisions making at Honda/Acura will loose customer loyalty, and diminish brand name!

 

this is pretty pathetic...

 

Well, for you guys criticizing all of the "mistakes" Honda and Acura have made, check this out. AUTOMOBILE magazine just named Takeo Fukui, Honda' chief, their Man of the Year, for NOT following the crowd and sticking to design philosophies.

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...kui/index.html

 

the almost s2k looked pretty bad ***..

chit sucks!!

 

Yeah right...

That's all good and dandy but the problem is that the current gen Prius already achieved 40/45 mpg and the next gen is likely to add on a least another 10 if not more.

Really? Apparently none of the resources had gone into making the Acura brand better, except uglier...

Articles like this one is why nobody reads Automobile magazine anymore.

 

The magazine praise him for leading the small engine segment/fuel efficient. Which Honda always have the reputation from small inline-4 powers/efficient. So really nothing new.

But most of the people here who disapprove Honda/Acura about the cancel project/dreams that many were hoping. I love them inline-4 that were coming out from Honda, but it would be nice to see them improve in other segment.

Just my 2 cents