New Audi S4 saloon Starting at $45,900 in USA...(updated)
10-24-08, 02:23 PM
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That Acura comment was in reference to the way he described the X6 system, not Audi's
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10-24-08, 04:37 PM
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I don't understand why some of you hold 0-60 times and the number of gears in the gearbox as some sort of all-end means to quantifying if a car is great or not. The driving experience is more than just a 0.2-0.3 neglible difference in the sprint to 60. Get out behind your computer screens and go drive the beasts!
As far as Audi styling looking like every Audi in the last 15 years, Audi styling has taken an evolutionary step ever since the TT/R8, and the new A4/A5 are clearly indicitive of that. These cars look better than a comparable IS/TL yet still have interior quality that is among the world's best. Nothing wrong with sticking to your design core and not going off the deep-end (Acura).
As far as Audi styling looking like every Audi in the last 15 years, Audi styling has taken an evolutionary step ever since the TT/R8, and the new A4/A5 are clearly indicitive of that. These cars look better than a comparable IS/TL yet still have interior quality that is among the world's best. Nothing wrong with sticking to your design core and not going off the deep-end (Acura).
10-24-08, 06:04 PM
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with DSG, that car is an uber-win in my eyes.
have you guys ever driven one of the audi/vw's with the DSG trans?
that thing shifts like lightning. Wish it wasn't exclusive to just those cars.
have you guys ever driven one of the audi/vw's with the DSG trans?
that thing shifts like lightning. Wish it wasn't exclusive to just those cars.
10-24-08, 10:16 PM
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I think IS looks as good as the new A4 sedan, if not better. Also, have you realized that Audi vehicles incorporate the same front end look for the whole lineup, not enough differetiation in front end styling among themselves. When you look at A4 and A6, wow how similar!!!!! But when you look at the other luxury automakers, IS is so different from GS which is different from LS, 3-series is different from 5 and 7, M-B C-class is very different from E and S. Now that is difficult, making them look different and yet you could tell they are from the same company. For Audi, they sure look like they come from the same company, but they look like one same car. As far as the interior, I have sat in the newest A5 and A4, impeccable is all I can say.
10-24-08, 11:33 PM
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well for me personally this car is a winner. I have always loved audis. More imporatantly, if this car turns out to be tuner friendly ill def be trading my better look IS for the S4. Have u guys seen the what an upgraded exhaust ecu and intake did to the new RS6? If the S4 could get a remotely similar power percentage increase bye bye lexus
08-13-09, 09:50 PM
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08-13-09, 09:58 PM
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I think the pricing is pretty good but will climb to 50k easy with the options I see. To me you get a "different" sedan than a usual 335 or IS 350. They would need their M/F sport kits but still the S4 has different seats, etc and has AWD and is bigger.
This is what is amazing. The Acura TSX 4 cylinder to 6 cylinder is what a 5 or 6 grand difference and you gain an old engine and a badge and 18" wheels. The A4 2.0 Prestige is 40k and a 3.2 is $43, 700. So the S4 is only 5 grand more than the 2.0 with some options and 2 grand more than the old 3.2 liter. That is a great value!!
This is what is amazing. The Acura TSX 4 cylinder to 6 cylinder is what a 5 or 6 grand difference and you gain an old engine and a badge and 18" wheels. The A4 2.0 Prestige is 40k and a 3.2 is $43, 700. So the S4 is only 5 grand more than the 2.0 with some options and 2 grand more than the old 3.2 liter. That is a great value!!
08-14-09, 04:48 AM
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In regards to styling, that car looks like every Audi the past 15 years. THing is, its a good design to stay with and "touch up" and not stray far away from like BMW/Benz have done. The interior also looks like most Audi interiors.
I am sure guys are going to modify this S/C like the old B5.
Overall, great job Audi. My 2nd fav luxury brand behind Lexus!
I am sure guys are going to modify this S/C like the old B5.
Overall, great job Audi. My 2nd fav luxury brand behind Lexus!
First X6 hybrid, now this.... I'm smiling more that our project got delayed again
Not on my "list" since it's not here yet, but agree with you 100% Sick... and closing the gap on Lexus...
08-14-09, 06:03 AM
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08-14-09, 07:02 AM
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08-14-09, 07:33 AM
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I am thinking that these will probably be going for $54K or so when appropriately optioned, which puts them just short of IS F and M3 territory. That makes me wonder if the new RS 4 will be priced as high as the old one was...?
To be honest, I don't know that I would spend an extra $10K on an S4 over an IS 350 or 335i. IS 350/335i with M/F upgrades would still not close the price gap and could probably outperform the Audi.
Still...the A4 is a very odd car to me, so this is not necessarily surprising. It's a good bit larger than the competition (almost midsize) and they dropped the 3.2L V6 version. Effectively, that leaves the A4 2.0T to compete against the upper and lower end models from competitors because the S4 is priced significantly more than the C350, IS 350, or 335i. The S4 is priced between the C350, IS 350, and 335i, and the C63, IS F, and M3 which makes me wonder if buyers will either fork over the extra cash for the high performance versions, save some and go for the top end 6 cyl models, or actually spring for the Audi.
It remains to be seen.
To be honest, I don't know that I would spend an extra $10K on an S4 over an IS 350 or 335i. IS 350/335i with M/F upgrades would still not close the price gap and could probably outperform the Audi.
Still...the A4 is a very odd car to me, so this is not necessarily surprising. It's a good bit larger than the competition (almost midsize) and they dropped the 3.2L V6 version. Effectively, that leaves the A4 2.0T to compete against the upper and lower end models from competitors because the S4 is priced significantly more than the C350, IS 350, or 335i. The S4 is priced between the C350, IS 350, and 335i, and the C63, IS F, and M3 which makes me wonder if buyers will either fork over the extra cash for the high performance versions, save some and go for the top end 6 cyl models, or actually spring for the Audi.
It remains to be seen.
08-14-09, 07:40 AM
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Just to be fair, an BMW 335 with sport package and AWD is about $53000 MSRP, which is about the same as the S4 and I think Audi has a better interior. The IS350 as nice as it is, is not in the same class as the S4 and also the IS350 doesnt offer AWD.
08-14-09, 07:53 AM
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