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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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Galant and Lancer Evolution Lead Mitsubishi Motors September Sales


CYPRESS, Calif., Oct. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Mitsubishi Motors today
announced September 2008 sales of 7,378.

Galant sales were 2,605, which, based on average daily selling rate is
a 1.1 percent increase, compared to September 2007. (There were 24 sales
days in 2008 and 25 sales days in 2007).

September 2008 Lancer Evolution sales were up 154 percent over
September 2007 sales.

In a badly depressed overall automotive sales market, Mitsubishi's
total September 2008 sales were down 39 percent, compared to September 2007
(12,102 sales).

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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U.S. Auto Sales Fall 27%, Most Since 1991

By Mike Ramsey and Alan Ohnsman

Oct. 1 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. auto sales tumbled 27 percent in September as the credit crisis and slowing economy dragged the industry to its worst month since 1991, when George H.W. Bush was president.

Ford Motor Co.'s sales declined 35 percent from a year earlier and Toyota Motor Corp.'s dropped 32 percent, their poorest monthly performances in more than two decades. General Motors Corp.'s slid 16 percent, as incentives helped blunt its decline. Sales fell 37 percent at Nissan Motor Co., 33 percent at Chrysler LLC and 24 percent at Honda Motor Co.

The September results extended the industry's slide to 11 consecutive months, the longest in 17 years. The financial crisis caused lenders to toughen loan standards and consumers curbed spending. The reduced availability of loans pinched automakers already hurt by gasoline prices that rose to a record in July.

``There is a psychological impact of all the news about banks in trouble,'' said Tom Libby, an analyst at marketing- research firm J.D. Power & Associates in Troy, Michigan. ``If people can wait to buy a car, they'll wait.''

Sales fell to 964,873 cars and light trucks from 1.31 million a year earlier, according to Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey- based Autodata Corp. The annual sales rate was 12.5 million, a drop from 16.2 million in September 2007, Autodata said. U.S. yearly sales reached a record 17.4 million in 2000 and averaged 16.8 million this decade.

September's percentage decline was the biggest since January 1991, according to Ward's Auto Forecast in Southfield, Michigan.

GM, Ford and Chrysler's U.S. brands' market share for the month rose to 52.3 percent from 50.8 percent a year earlier, as GM's sales fell less the industry's, according to Autodata. Asian companies held 39.9 percent, down from 42.1 percent.

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GM's sales of 282,806 cars and light trucks were down from 334,974 a year earlier. Adjusted for one fewer sales day last month compared with September 2007, the drop was 12 percent. On that basis, the average of 5 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg was for a 26 percent decline.

``We again gained retail share, and our total market share looks to be above 27 percent for the month without an increase in incentives,'' said Mark LaNeve, Detroit-based GM's vice president of North American sales, in a statement.

GM today said it's replacing offers to all buyers of prices that its employees pay with no-interest loans of as long as six years on many 2008 models. GM's average incentive spending fell 2 percent last month from August to $3,972 a vehicle, according to Edmunds.com. That compares with $2,801 industrywide, almost unchanged from August.

The automaker said leasing accounted for 1 percent of sales last month. Across the industry, lenders offered fewer leases and required higher down payments and interest rates, Libby said.

Ford

Ford said its sales fell to 120,788 from 184,612, the 22nd decline in the past 23 months. Sales of pickup trucks, sport- utility vehicles and vans for its U.S. brands tumbled 39 percent, as it sold 42 percent fewer F-Series pickups. Car sales for the Ford, Lincoln and Mercury brands fell 19 percent.

Ford sales excluding Volvo were 116,734. That was its lowest monthly total since December 1981, according to Autodata.

``An already weak economy compounded by very tight credit conditions has created an atmosphere of caution,'' Jim Farley, Ford's worldwide marketing chief, said in a statement.

The automaker is marking the 100th anniversary of the building of its first Model T. In 1924, Ford held 60 percent of the global automotive market, said John Wolkonowicz, auto analyst at Global Insight Inc. in Lexington, Massachusetts. In this year's first half, Ford was fourth in worldwide sales, behind Toyota, GM and Volkswagen AG.

Toyota, Honda

Toyota, second in the U.S. behind GM, said in a statement that September sales fell to 144,260 cars and light trucks from 213,043 a year earlier.

The Toyota City, Japan-based company's monthly decline was its steepest since 32 percent in July 1987, said Bob Carter, vice president of its U.S. sales unit, in a conference call.

Honda, Japan's second-largest automaker, sold 96,626 vehicles, down from 127,200 a year earlier, spokesman Chris Martin said in an interview. The percentage drop was the biggest for the company since November 1981.

Sales fell across the Tokyo-based company's product line, except for the Fit subcompact, he said.

``We've done nothing different, but customers just weren't coming into dealerships,'' Martin said.

Tokyo-based Nissan, Japan's third-largest automaker, said in an e-mailed release that it sold 59,565 vehicles, a drop from 94,269 a year earlier.

Chrysler

Chrysler reported sales of 107,349 vehicles, dropping from 159,799. The Auburn Hills, Michigan-based company announced new incentives for October, with cash discounts of as much as $6,000 and interest-free, 6-year financing on 2008 Dodge Ram pickups.

Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, reported a 26 percent drop in sales for the month. The Seoul-based company sold 24,765 vehicles, down from 33,214 a year earlier.

European brands sold 75,204 vehicles, a 20 percent drop from a year earlier.

Global Insight cut its 2009 estimate for U.S. auto sales to 13.4 million from 14 million, analyst Rebecca Lindland said in an interview at a GM reception in Paris. ``There's no sign of recovery we can point to,'' she said.

The weakening U.S. economy, which has lost jobs in each month of 2008, has added to the strain on the auto industry. September non-farm payrolls likely fell by 105,000, based on 69 economist estimates compiled by Bloomberg.

Consumer spending also was weakening even before the credit crisis intensified.

The unraveling of the U.S. banking system has eroded confidence and tightened credit. In September, Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. filed for bankruptcy and Washington Mutual Inc. failed as banks were unable to liquidate assets tied to risky home mortgages and as a result were running short of capital.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Expected declines IMO. However....


1. MB C-class - 6,772
2. BMW 3-series - 6,303


Thats a first in probably a very long time right??
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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The worst month by far we have seen since having these monthly sales threads. People simply were NOT buying cars.

These economic times DO NOT bode well for coupes, big SUVs and useless SUVs.

I will analyze tonight, its BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.

bit, yes the Genesis outsold the GS, it is supposed too, its way cheaper and has a higher sales target.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Cute Ute
1. X3 - 1,400
2. EX - 1,279
3. RDX - 908

Pre-Entry-Level and others

1. Nissan Maxima - 4,996
2. Chrysler 300 - 4,287
3. Toyota Avalon - 3,404
4. TSX - 2,144
5. Pontiac G8 - 1,651
6. Hyundai Genesis - 1,029
7. C30/S40/V50 - 806
8. 1-Series - 663
9. A3 - 287

Entry-Level
1. C - 6,772
2. 3 - 6,303
3. CTS - 4,360
4. A4/5 - 4,214
5. ES - 4,042
6. G35/37 - 3,797
7. IS - 3,044
8. TL - 3,017
9. MKZ - 1,578
10. 9-3 - 1,281
11. S60 - 470

Mid-Level
1. E - 2,968
2. 5 - 2,423
3. MKS - 1,814
4. A6/S6 - 1,090
5. M - 1,077
6. GS - 977
7. STS - 856
8. S80 - 578
9. RL - 259
10. 9-5 - 176

Flagship
1. S-Class - 1,591
2. LS - 1,238
3. 7-Series - 534
4. A8/S8 - 261




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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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These numbers are just brutal!
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Wow. Thanks as always for the numbers. I am tempted to say that Audi is hanging in there better than I expect, especially the A6 considering the refreshed one isn't even here yet, but they have yet to really step it up to compete with the big guys. Bet bimmer can't wait for the new 7.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Okay interesting. Seems Benz is strong and there is nothing really new, the C-class is a year old. Leads me to believe people still "trust" this brand in tough times. Sales only down 9%.
If you notice, Altima/Accord/Camry sales tanked, which leads me to believe your average middle class family is going to hold on to their current car.Sonata sales are up actually.
Lexus was having a down year anyway, so this is actually inline with what they have been handling.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Expected declines IMO. However....
1. MB C-class - 6,772
2. BMW 3-series - 6,303
Thats a first in probably a very long time right??
I think the two biggest shocks in this entire thread were the 3-series and the RX (4,639 7,841 -38.4).

However, there are a couple of other surprises...
SEQUOIA 2,030 1,660 27.4
X5 2,316 2,293 1.0%

I think that is the second month in a row for increased Sequoia sales (although 2K is nothing big, it IS an improvement in a market segment that is dying bad) and how in the world did the X5 manage a gain as well?

I expected some bad sales for the month, but nothing like this.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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dang!!!!!! the 3 series is tanking
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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I remember that there was talk that BMW was going to do away w/ their cheap lease rates -- did that kick in yet? If so, that would explain a lot ...
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Cute Ute
1. X3 - 1,400
2. EX - 1,279
3. RDX - 908

Pre-Entry-Level and others

1. Nissan Maxima - 4,996
2. Chrysler 300 - 4,287
3. Toyota Avalon - 3,404
4. TSX - 2,144
5. Pontiac G8 - 1,651
6. Hyundai Genesis - 1,029
7. C30/S40/V50 - 806
8. 1-Series - 663
9. A3 - 287

Entry-Level
1. C - 6,772
2. 3 - 6,303
3. CTS - 4,360
4. A4/5 - 4,214
5. ES - 4,042
6. G35/37 - 3,797
7. IS - 3,044
8. TL - 3,017
9. MKZ - 1,578
10. 9-3 - 1,281
11. S60 - 470

Mid-Level
1. E - 2,968
2. 5 - 2,423
3. MKS - 1,814
4. A6/S6 - 1,090
5. M - 1,077
6. GS - 977
7. STS - 856
8. S80 - 578
9. RL - 259
10. 9-5 - 176

Flagship
1. S-Class - 1,591
2. LS - 1,238
3. 7-Series - 534
4. A8/S8 - 261

More to come later
Great summary as usual!

I do think though that the Genesis should be in mid-level! I don't see why it's more "pre-level" than half of those at least, especially your favorites, the M and RL but also the Volvo and Saaaaaaab.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Great summary as usual!

I do think though that the Genesis should be in mid-level! I don't see why it's more "pre-level" than half of those at least, especially your favorites, the M and RL but also the Volvo and Saaaaaaab.
I agree bit, I'm kinda confused on where to put some of the vehicles.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Okay here are my thoughts;

I don't think anyone saw this big of a drop coming. I bet the last 2 weeks were EMPTY in dealerships. We are not seeing a drop b/c people don't want cars or products are undesirable. We are seeing a drop based on consumer confidence and tightening credit. How long will this last? Maybe 2 years I say.

We have to take into account that cars today are much better built and last more than ones in the past, so people CAN hold on to an older car as they are generally more reliable than cars in teh 90s and 80s.

We also will see that the top brands will be fine and niche/smaller brands will get pummeled as people go to "trusted" names and the status quo.

Those "image" vehicles, forget about it, i.e, SUVs with minimal purpose. I do hope that coupe sales DO NOT just plummet, we have so many new coupes out, something that died in the 1990s.

We have had threads showing people own more cars than people in their household. Well if you thought the used car market was in trouble before, well people are going to DUMP their vehicles now. When those leases are up, people are going to head to the economy cars as gas prices are still high compared to 5 years ago and uncertainty of gas prices scares people away.

Onto individual brands
Acura-will continue to falter with ugly products and avg gas mileage and no image with the people outside loyal followers. The new TL is not going to help as their SUV sales will fall, so any gains made are lost. The new TSX is doing poorly and its all new. Sales will only get worse. A diesel TSX might help and be the cheapest luxury branded diesel.

Audi- its easy to say "they only went down slightly" but they don't sell that many vehicles in the first place. I told you guys in a couple years Audi would pass Infiniti in sales and I got laughed at. Well last month Audi was only down 500 units to them. With a new A4, watch out. The Q5 will only help, even if its 1k units a month.

Benz-I think thats the first time anyone took #1 in sales in every sedan segment. Its clear they are a brand people trust and the new C-class is just a huge hit for them. THe new E class is coming so that is going to help next year. The S is flagship stable. The GLK will help where their coupe sales decline. Their SUV sales are holding. I expect Benz to be okay.

BMW-The 25% drop didn't bug me, they like Lexus, had a huge year last year, so sales will drop. We are aware they are raising prices and lease rates. They now will build most all their SUVs here. I think now that the price is going up, their styling is going to turn people away. Will the fee maintenance be the next to go away? I expect more of a drop for BMW and they are going to have to explore merging as costs continue to rise.

Caddy- got hit in the head, dropped 40%. They are going to continue to drop and will be like Infiniti, relying on one main car to sell, the CTS. The DTS/STS are going to merge. The next SRX is not going to help much. The Esclade is a big image vehicle, which is NOT what people want now. Even with the hybrid, sales will plummet. I'm scared Caddy might sell under 10k units soon.

Infiniti- they have a new EX, which is saving their *** even though its below sales targets. If they didn't have that extra 1k+ units, they would be **** poor right now. The FX is all new and is making no sales or image splash. It is DOA and expect worse sales in 2009. The G37 sedan is seemingly lost in this class, as I find it to be the best value and a great car. Sales are okay at best. The coupe will sell worse as people drop image and cars that are not user friendly compared to a sedan. The convert won't help much.

Lexus- Will have a drop again in 2009, the IS convert won't help much. Expect buyers to notice their fuel economy ratings, they are quite good in many vehicles. Will F-sport/F get canned, as people don't spend that extra $$$$? I hope not. The good news is the HS 250 hybrid is coming and the new RX, which will be right on time late next year/2010. The IS will hold, the GS will continue to fall. Lexus was the only one with brains to invest in hybrids early, so this will help them in the near future.

Lincoln- outside the new MKS, dropping like flies. They simply do not stand out and I don't see their loyal buyers sticking around. They dropped them before and will again. I would bet after the MKS slows down, the brand is gone by 2015. Don't expect a new Navigator.

Saab- I'm amazed they are still around.

Volvo- A Pity, they have a vision with their cars inside and out and can't sell a lick. The XC90 holds well, the all new S80 is under 1k units already. A shame. 4k units last month as a brand, horrible. Will their time in the USA be cut short?
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Originally Posted by GS69
I remember that there was talk that BMW was going to do away w/ their cheap lease rates -- did that kick in yet? If so, that would explain a lot ...
BMW wants to move people more towards buying and away from leasing. Their lease rates are/were a combo of great residuals and good money factors. Starting in July they had the .9% which made buying the car somewhat more attractive than leasing (4%+). This went away in Sept and BMW significantly altered their 2 year residuals as well (in addition to it being the end of one model year and the beginning of another - the time where residuals are the worst). So... .9% going away, residuals being adjusted, and a terrible economy and you have significant drop in sales - some of which would have happened sooner without the .9%.....
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