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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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My 09 Maxima is a blast to drive, I'd be willing to bet most don't even know what the CVT actual is, it drivers every bit like any smooth powerful crip shifting transmission, this transmission is simply something you can't read about and form an opinion, you can't experience a restaurant, or nightclub by reading about it, you have to go out and do it, otherwise your missing a lot.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
You are trying to be funny but fail.. Show me a Toyota with a similar interior please? My point it the TL interior is too much like an Accord which is doing it wrong. Maxima is very much like an Infiniti, doing it right.
we all know Nissan looks like Infiniti, Honda looks like Acura, Toyota looks like Lexus and vice versa... so I don't understand your business with one doing it "right" or one doing it "wrong"... 1SICKLEX and I always but heads

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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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I'm glad I'm not relegated to shopping these 2 cars.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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April, 2009 Motor Trend.

"The cockpit is superb," says editor at large Arthur St. Antoine, "light years better than the old car's, and one of the best in the class."
A fan of the interior? Yes. A fan of the car as a whole? Not really. "For cruising around town, the Maxima works well enough. But after a while the CVT and its peculiar, non-sporty behavior get tiresome. In my opinion, it wrecks this car. And the front-drive layout finishes the job. If Nissan's intent really was to build a 'four-door sports car,' the choice of FWD seems absurd. Why would you ever buy this car over an Infiniti G37?" On Web producer Melissa Speiring's baby seat test: "I had to have Kirill's strength to help me attach the two lower latches to the rear seat. The hooks are located deep in the cushions, and the straps of the baby seat barely reached them."
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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I like the interior of the TL more than the maxima, but prefer the look of the maxima more. So if I were to choose between these two I would be in a bind here

But if I were you I would look into the G. I prefer that over both for the same money.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
April, 2009 Motor Trend.

But after a while the CVT and its peculiar, non-sporty behavior get tiresome. In my opinion, it wrecks this car. And the front-drive layout finishes the job. If Nissan's intent really was to build a 'four-door sports car,' the choice of FWD seems absurd. Why would you ever buy this car over an Infiniti G37?"
OK, fine. That's the MT tester's opinion. We respect it. Others, though, including some of us here at CL, don't necessarily agree with it. Auto mags often test on a track, where the cars are wrung out to their limits. Most of us here, in this forum, drive on public streets. I have driven and reviewed both the G37 and some new Nissan FWD CVT models, and, during the reviews, pushed them moderately hard, but not to track limits. All have been nice cars for what most of us use them for. In fact, in my experience, Nissan's CVT, in manual mode, actually has quicker shifts than the conventional Sport-shift automatics. I do agree with the tester, however, that RWD gives slightly better handling and less understeer than FWD. But, for the money, I'd take Hyundai's new 3.8L Track Genesis coupe over either of them, despite its disappointing interior. The 3.8L Genesis coupe, amazingly, is the closest thing I've felt to a classic BMW this side of the blue-and-white propeller.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, fine. That's the MT tester's opinion. We respect it. Others, though, including some of us here at CL, don't necessarily agree with it. Auto mags often test on a track, where the cars are wrung out to their limits. Most of us here, in this forum, drive on public streets. I have driven and reviewed both the G37 and some new Nissan FWD CVT models, and, during the reviews, pushed them moderately hard, but not to track limits. All have been nice cars for what most of us use them for. In fact, in my experience, Nissan's CVT, in manual mode, actually has quicker shifts than the conventional Sport-shift automatics. I do agree with the tester, however, that RWD gives slightly better handling and less understeer than FWD. But, for the money, I'd take Hyundai's new 3.8L Track Genesis coupe over either of them, despite its disappointing interior. The 3.8L Genesis coupe, amazingly, is the closest thing I've felt to a classic BMW this side of the blue-and-white propeller.
I've pushed the crap out of the Maxima rental, and it just flew. I shut off all the traction controll stuff, and the car would peel out like crazy, and the CVT just provides instant kick the moment you put your foot down.

The only problem was scary amount of torque steer, which is found in all FWD cars with decent power.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Och
The only problem was scary amount of torque steer, which is found in all FWD cars with decent power.
Depends on how the front driveshafts and suspension are designed. In general, equal-length front driveshafts tend to minimize torque steer, but that is sometimes difficult to do in a transverse-engine FWD car. Some high-powered FWD cars, like the Turbo MazdaSpeed3, also limit torque output in the lower gears, but not in the higher ones.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK, fine. That's the MT tester's opinion. We respect it. Others, though, including some of us here at CL, don't necessarily agree with it. Auto mags often test on a track, where the cars are wrung out to their limits. Most of us here, in this forum, drive on public streets. I have driven and reviewed both the G37 and some new Nissan FWD CVT models, and, during the reviews, pushed them moderately hard, but not to track limits. All have been nice cars for what most of us use them for. In fact, in my experience, Nissan's CVT, in manual mode, actually has quicker shifts than the conventional Sport-shift automatics. I do agree with the tester, however, that RWD gives slightly better handling and less understeer than FWD. But, for the money, I'd take Hyundai's new 3.8L Track Genesis coupe over either of them, despite its disappointing interior. The 3.8L Genesis coupe, amazingly, is the closest thing I've felt to a classic BMW this side of the blue-and-white propeller.
Good point.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
I'm glad I'm not relegated to shopping these 2 cars.
What does that mean?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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No more 3rd gen shopping huh? Wow!
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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It's too many great deals out there right now so why even looking at either of these 2 cars. I find both cars ugly. But that's just my opinion.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by speedflex
What does that mean?
Sorry if I was unclear. Short answer, neither car is on my shopping list.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLERGS4
we all know Nissan looks like Infiniti, Honda looks like Acura, Toyota looks like Lexus and vice versa... so I don't understand your business with one doing it "right" or one doing it "wrong"... 1SICKLEX and I always but heads
lol, we tend too....follow me...
Nissan interior looks like luxury brand, that is fine
Acura interior looks like non luxury brand, that is not so fine

As for Lexus, their interiors look like nothing in a Toyota.

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No more 3rd gen shopping huh? Wow!
Was this to me? G/Fs lease is up on the ALtima next spring....a bunch of factors of course determine what would be next. Maxima would be a great logical choice before she met me . I do like it a lot though.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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I guess everyone look at things differently. I see no resemblance of the TL interior to the Accord at all. I like the TL interior more than my RX350 interior.

To me the interior of the TL is much nicer vs the Maxima/G37 interior, but I guess that just me.
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