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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
e30 M3=192hp. 0-60 in 7.5 seconds.

2007 Camry V6 268hp-manual-under 6 seconds.

Cars are not the only thing that changed, so did the expectations of people's interpretation of what performance is.
I agree and I still don't really understand why we have family cars with the performance of old performance cars. I much rather they focus on having HIGHER MPG than 0-60. Most of these people hate driving or have taken no driving courses, yet their vehicles are very capable.

ANother thing that concerns me is the shift to driving SUVs and Trucks and people drive them like cars!! THey are not and I would propose a license test based on owning and driving that vehicle.

DRIVER EDUCATION!!! We need more of it!!
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Agree, why should it cost $300 for a good drivers education course? It should be required. My boy who is 17 years of age wrecked his Maxima within 4 months Fortunately it was a low speed impact under a mini vans rear bumper. Still, he looked away. And as much I drove with him in all of our cars and trucks to teach him different dynamics, awareness, he still looked away at the wrong time-BAM. Was there more I could do? Who knows. Experience goes a long ways as well but I think a mental educational class on the dangers of speed, suvs, detractions, AND the consequences of these actions should be forced into every teens head and not just a single question on a test.
Our family has a good friend that comes back to California to get her drivers license as it was too difficult for her in NY. Heck, for those that have driven on Broadway with those crazy taxis-you become adept at paying attention real quick. NY city is where I received my license. I wrecked the family store station wagon on the Hudson bridge in 3 months of obtaining my license. Too fast around the first entrance.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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This accident occured in a Calabasas Residential Area and one of my best friends was in the backseat directly behind the driver(car landed on HIS side) and the following paragraph was written by him.

"crazy ****ing night....so my girlfriend had a kickback last night at her house. an hour after i arrive a kid in a brand new 08 m3 shows up...car doesnt even have 1000 miles on it yet...so me and 2 others decide to go for a little ride in it...car was ridiculously loud and fast....so we go up and down a hill a few times to warm the car up...then the genius decides to put it in M mode....he floores it up the hill...****ing fastest **** ever...then he loses control...hopes a curb...car turns sideways...and we end up in someones front yard...everyone walked out though thank god...i think my thumb is broken and i have a bruise on my collar bone from the seat belt. BMW crash system was amazing...i dont know how anyone could survive that we were probably going 60 mph...."

BTW the kid driving had 2 beers and was apprently high while driving. Mommy and daddy had bought him(a 19 year old) this car as a present for getting into UCLA directly out of high school, a difficult task. And i think as he hit the M button, the traction and stablity control got disabled causing this bad of an accident. After the crash he ran away and boned home since he did not want to get caught for driving drunk. He turned himself in the following morning.
not only does the kid need drivers ed, the kid also needs ejumacation.
congratumalations for getting into UCLA right out of high school...i guess.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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i'm always impressed (for lack of a better work) when people manage to get the car on its side
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Not totally off topic but the M3's looks are growing on me......
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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I have always said, it dond tack skilz to git ento UCLA.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
Agree, why should it cost $300 for a good drivers education course? It should be required. My boy who is 17 years of age wrecked his Maxima within 4 months Fortunately it was a low speed impact under a mini vans rear bumper. Still, he looked away. And as much I drove with him in all of our cars and trucks to teach him different dynamics, awareness, he still looked away at the wrong time-BAM. Was there more I could do? Who knows. Experience goes a long ways as well but I think a mental educational class on the dangers of speed, suvs, detractions, AND the consequences of these actions should be forced into every teens head and not just a single question on a test.
Our family has a good friend that comes back to California to get her drivers license as it was too difficult for her in NY. Heck, for those that have driven on Broadway with those crazy taxis-you become adept at paying attention real quick. NY city is where I received my license. I wrecked the family store station wagon on the Hudson bridge in 3 months of obtaining my license. Too fast around the first entrance.
Going from an ES 300 to SC 400 was a big change, one I was not aware of being in my teens and early 20s. I simply didn't understand the differences of how the car would drive/handle different b/c of the FWD/RWD change. I had no education and my family are not "car' nuts like I am. I never wrecked either but had close calls. The two scary ones were-
1. Looking away for a split second and a car is totally stopped in the road. I was in the ES. At first I thought it was moving then realized its STOPPED. I SLAAMMM On the brake and swerve to the side to avoid hitting it and end up in the middle of an intersection. That still sticks in my mind
2. The other was it was snowing/sleet in Atlanta and I'm on an exit ramp that curves and I lose the SC and its just sliding!!!! I was like "wtf is this". My dad did teach me shift, don't brake so I downshifted the auto and pulled the brake....I regained control right before a wall hit.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Wow what an idiot. High, drinking and ran away from the scene. Darwin award? I hope mommy and daddy don't decide to give him a replacement car.
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The turning point in my driving "career" was when I was on my way to work one March morning where the road was lightly covered in slush trying to accelerate up a hill and due to my somewhat crappy tire level and switching lanes I spun out 360 and landed into the guard rail on the other side of the road. Luckily it was early yet and no cars were coming the other way yet I could have hit someone else and made the situation a whole lot more complicated. I wasn't speeding or going to fast for conditions it was just one of those moments where a few things went wrong and bam. Since then every time I feel the car beginning to slide (in the heavy rain for example) I back off. I developed some sort of paranoid feeling I can't shake. Before that accident I was younger and used to go 100mph+ now I don't feel the need to do that plus I am scared to go anywhere near 100, 90 being tops. Having 3 kids also helps on that end.

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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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The only accident caused by my fault was merging onto a highway where there was traffic merging. I was behind the person that was stopped waiting to merge (horrible driving skills) and I saw a VERY LARGE gap where he should've merged and waited for my chance to merge after that. So after I thought the person in front of me had merged (which he should've) and the following car on the highway go by, I tried my chance at merging from a dead stop.
Now I don't know if the person in front of me was causing all the backed up merging traffic but it was stupid of them to not have merged when they could've/should've. Regardless it's my fault for not checking again in front of me to see if the person in front had merged already. Well they didn't, they were still sitting there. So last second as I turned to look forward to see the car still sitting there, I slammed the brakes. Couldn't stop in time, skidded into the back of the car.
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
Agree, why should it cost $300 for a good drivers education course? It should be required. My boy who is 17 years of age wrecked his Maxima within 4 months Fortunately it was a low speed impact under a mini vans rear bumper. Still, he looked away. And as much I drove with him in all of our cars and trucks to teach him different dynamics, awareness, he still looked away at the wrong time-BAM. Was there more I could do? Who knows. Experience goes a long ways as well but I think a mental educational class on the dangers of speed, suvs, detractions, AND the consequences of these actions should be forced into every teens head and not just a single question on a test.
Our family has a good friend that comes back to California to get her drivers license as it was too difficult for her in NY. Heck, for those that have driven on Broadway with those crazy taxis-you become adept at paying attention real quick. NY city is where I received my license. I wrecked the family store station wagon on the Hudson bridge in 3 months of obtaining my license. Too fast around the first entrance.
BMW & Audi offers free driving clinics for teens & adults each year all over the country.. Heck, it is a taste of the BMW performance driving school in Spartanburg right in your own back yard. I started a local thread about it, and it is up to the guys to decide whether it is worth their time to attend..

TEENAGERS

There's only one way for a teenager to become a better driver: experience. As part of BMW's commitment to driver education, we offer the Student Driver Program to help your teenager drive with intelligence. Your 15 to 20-year-old student will get behind the wheel of a new X5 to learn the finer points of safe driving under the guidance of a BMW professional instructor. Students will learn key safety skills, including gauging the relationship between speed and stopping distances, braking, and accident-avoidance techniques. It's all about making your teen a safer, more confident driver.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=353400
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
Last I looked a $500 Hyundai Excel can do 90 mph which would be much more dangerous than an M3 at that speed. Even if you removed all of the performance cars from the road kids will still drive beyond their abilities, they always have.
There only a handful of teenager who understand the cars limits and there limits but for the rest they don't!

Was the owner of the car in his car when it crashed?
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by valgs350
There only a handful of teenager who understand the cars limits and there limits but for the rest they don't!

Was the owner of the car in his car when it crashed?
The owner was the driver. With three other occupants it sounds.
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