Watch out Lexus... Here comes Hyundai...(Genesis concept images released - Page 2)
03-28-07, 12:53 PM
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Advanced adaptive cruise control
Electronic Stability Control
Eight airbags
Heat / cool seats
High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with adaptive leveling
Push-button start
Navigation with backup camera
Electric parking brake
Bluetooth technology
USB / Auxiliary input jack
HD Radio™ Receiver
XM Satellite Radio®
Infinity® Discrete Surround Audio System
GENESIS PREMIUM SPORTS SEDAN SPECIFICATIONS
Configuration: FR Engine RWD Sport Sedan
Wheelbase: 2935 mm / 115.6 inches
Overall length: 5005 mm / 197.0 inches
Overall width: 1863 mm / 73.3 inches
Overall height: 1490 mm / 58.7 inches
Track, f/r: 1575 mm / 62.0 inches, 1580 mm / 62.2 inches
Wheels: 20-inch multi-spoke
Engine type: V8
Estimated horsepower: Well over 300HP
Estimated torque: Over 300 lb. ft.
Displacement: 4,627 cc
Block material: High pressure die casting aluminum block
Cylinder head material: Aluminum
Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
Valve timing: Continuous variable valve timing
Variable induction system
Fuel delivery: Multi-port fuel injection
Bore & stroke: 92 x 87
Estimated 0-60 mph: well under 6.0 seconds
Top speed: 130 mph (restricted)
Recommended fuel: Unleaded
Transmission type: ZF 6-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC manual control
Suspension: Front multi-link (5-link) / Rear multi-link (5-link)
Stabilizer bar (front/rear): 26 mm/18 mm
Weight distribution front to rear: 53:47 Brakes: Power-assisted 4-wheel disc
Front brake diameter (mm / in): 320 / 12.6 ventilated disc
Rear brake diameter (mm / in): 314 / 12.4 solid disc
Steering type: Speed-sensing rack-and-pinion
Steering ratio: 14.86
Advanced adaptive cruise control
Electronic Stability Control
Eight airbags
Heat / cool seats
High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with adaptive leveling
Push-button start
Navigation with backup camera
Electric parking brake
Bluetooth technology
USB / Auxiliary input jack
HD Radio™ Receiver
XM Satellite Radio®
Infinity® Discrete Surround Audio System
GENESIS PREMIUM SPORTS SEDAN SPECIFICATIONS
Configuration: FR Engine RWD Sport Sedan
Wheelbase: 2935 mm / 115.6 inches
Overall length: 5005 mm / 197.0 inches
Overall width: 1863 mm / 73.3 inches
Overall height: 1490 mm / 58.7 inches
Track, f/r: 1575 mm / 62.0 inches, 1580 mm / 62.2 inches
Wheels: 20-inch multi-spoke
Engine type: V8
Estimated horsepower: Well over 300HP
Estimated torque: Over 300 lb. ft.
Displacement: 4,627 cc
Block material: High pressure die casting aluminum block
Cylinder head material: Aluminum
Valvetrain: Dual Over Head Cam (DOHC)
Valve timing: Continuous variable valve timing
Variable induction system
Fuel delivery: Multi-port fuel injection
Bore & stroke: 92 x 87
Estimated 0-60 mph: well under 6.0 seconds
Top speed: 130 mph (restricted)
Recommended fuel: Unleaded
Transmission type: ZF 6-speed automatic with SHIFTRONIC manual control
Suspension: Front multi-link (5-link) / Rear multi-link (5-link)
Stabilizer bar (front/rear): 26 mm/18 mm
Weight distribution front to rear: 53:47 Brakes: Power-assisted 4-wheel disc
Front brake diameter (mm / in): 320 / 12.6 ventilated disc
Rear brake diameter (mm / in): 314 / 12.4 solid disc
Steering type: Speed-sensing rack-and-pinion
Steering ratio: 14.86
03-28-07, 12:58 PM
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This Hyundai, the Azera and the Equus ARE luxury. But you may be right about Hyundai shooting themselves in the foot because when you buy a luxury car, it's not just the purchase experience you want to be happy with. It extends beyond that. Like I've mentioned before.. Do you think Lexus LS460 owners want to be in the same showroom as 17 year old kids jumping around like monkeys calling each other "Biznatches"? It's not only the showroom. What happens when you need service? Do you think this high-brow six figure executive wants to sit next to some pimply 16 year old jerkoff with his pants around his ankles while he's waiting?
I do not think that Toyota, or more specifically Lexus, has much to worry about until Hyundai comes ou w/ their own luxury line (which I am sure they will). Until then, many luxury buyers will probably not choose a Hyundai simply bc of the badge - not bc Hyundai is bad but bc it is not luxury. These are same people who bought a TL/ES instead of an Accord/Camry just bc of the nameplate.
Hyundai may end up shooting themselves in the foot by releasing these premium vehicles under the same badge as their lower end models. They may want to look @ Acura who is having a hard time getting people to not cross shop w/ their Honda products.
Hyundai may end up shooting themselves in the foot by releasing these premium vehicles under the same badge as their lower end models. They may want to look @ Acura who is having a hard time getting people to not cross shop w/ their Honda products.
I don't believe Hyundai is trying to portray this as sporty, exactly.. More so "Lexus" luxury with a Toyota price tag...
03-28-07, 08:53 PM
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whats new COPY cat, whoa whoa whoaaaaaooooooooo
so typical of hyundai
the only car of theirs that i like is the Azera because that is a bit more original
btw, 20" wheels in the specs??? wow
so typical of hyundai
the only car of theirs that i like is the Azera because that is a bit more original
btw, 20" wheels in the specs??? wow
03-29-07, 08:55 AM
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03-29-07, 01:18 PM
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the RL is already dead... you can't kill a dead horse twice.. 
I can understand that all car makers do copy each other.. but in this case.. Hyundai has no shame. 
the car looks good though.. 
the car looks good though..
03-29-07, 04:07 PM
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Do you think Lexus LS460 owners want to be in the same showroom as 17 year old kids jumping around like monkeys calling each other "Biznatches"? It's not only the showroom. What happens when you need service? Do you think this high-brow six figure executive wants to sit next to some pimply 16 year old jerkoff with his pants around his ankles while he's waiting?
03-29-07, 05:12 PM
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Must of made for some fun in the backseat
03-30-07, 02:40 AM
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Do you think Lexus LS460 owners want to be in the same showroom as 17 year old kids jumping around like monkeys calling each other "Biznatches"? It's not only the showroom. What happens when you need service? Do you think this high-brow six figure executive wants to sit next to some pimply 16 year old jerkoff with his pants around his ankles while he's waiting?
03-30-07, 03:55 AM
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Acura 1st cut production & then killed the RSX altogether for this reason.
I am sure that if Lexus decided to build a <$30,000 BMW 1-Series fighter, there would be many here claiming that it would ruin the brand. Heck, when there were rumors of a Lexus RAV4, people were already complaining. Honestly, now that I think about it, I have even heard similar rumblings over the IS250 ...
I am sure that if Lexus decided to build a <$30,000 BMW 1-Series fighter, there would be many here claiming that it would ruin the brand. Heck, when there were rumors of a Lexus RAV4, people were already complaining. Honestly, now that I think about it, I have even heard similar rumblings over the IS250 ...
03-30-07, 08:04 AM
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It's just one thing that WILL keep people from buying Hyundai luxury vehicles. Personally, I think Hyundai will sell enough of these new luxury cars to put a small dent everybody's wallet (manufacturers).
I'm just looking at things from both perspectives.. On one hand, the vehicles will be good enough to attract all kinds of buyers. On the other hand, it won't attract those bothered by the situation I mentioned..
When my Wife was looking for a new car, we considered the Kia Amanti. We took it for a test drive. If you ever drove one - or drove in one, you'd be impressed. Well, the dealership was run by children. We ran out and never went back. There are just some situations where mature, responsible adults should be running the show...
I'm just looking at things from both perspectives.. On one hand, the vehicles will be good enough to attract all kinds of buyers. On the other hand, it won't attract those bothered by the situation I mentioned..
When my Wife was looking for a new car, we considered the Kia Amanti. We took it for a test drive. If you ever drove one - or drove in one, you'd be impressed. Well, the dealership was run by children. We ran out and never went back. There are just some situations where mature, responsible adults should be running the show...
03-30-07, 08:06 AM
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The Equus will be even bigger...
Yeah, but by today's standards.. I used to drive a 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. That car was huge.