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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Also, Mercedes never had a quad headlight design until years after Lexus did it first with the SC400/300. I love how people give Mercedes credit for doing it first.

When MB incorporates a park assist system (which they're suppose to be doing this year), people years from now will say MB invented that.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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The first image in this thread...



Looks gorgeous...

I really hope this car improves on the E-class in every possible way, and if this styling is the direction, it does on the exterior aspect. Just hope the interior is more S-class/Audi than C-class.

And the GS headlights? Imitation is this sincerest form of flattery!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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The oldest models I remember seeing with quad headlights are the 60's Jaguars . . .
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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didnt some older classic benz's have dual headlights, i remember of a model being stacked one on top another but never side by side that i can recall

they are in competition, its only good business they bite a little off what will help make a sale...every car company does it!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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I hope that Benz will do an extensive rigorous testing like they did on the W204 C-Class, as the E-Class is the best selling model in the Benz lineup. I'm sure that they will make the interior as gorgeous as the S-Class.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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I just hope for their own sake that their rustproofing has gotten ALOT better on this new E-klass

Designwice..not that bad...and the 3gs lighting arrangement was a nice touch
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by @lpher
I just hope for their own sake that their rustproofing has gotten ALOT better on this new E-klass

Designwice..not that bad...and the 3gs lighting arrangement was a nice touch
The old E-class never had an issue with rust (the entire car was galvanized), so I'm not too sure what you're talking about.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mavericck
The old E-class never had an issue with rust (the entire car was galvanized), so I'm not too sure what you're talking about.
The old S had a little bit of rust problems. Near the wheel arches if I recall correctly.

Anyway, I don't like the low belt line in the front with the newer models. Maybe when we see an unveiled model I'll form a stronger opinion. I also see they've kept the quad headlight design in the second pics. Looks like it from what I can tell.

Keep in mind the first photo is only an artists rendering.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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wow thats really 3 GS ish

i guess imitation is the closest form of flattery
id love to see the real car instead of this CGI
when is the new E class due to be facelifted?

old E class were built like a rock
my dad has a 94 E320, it has no rust, no problems mechanically
only some rubber hoses had to be replaced due to age
electrically, very very minor problems
the whole car is just solid and thats why hes still keeping it around

I really hope the new E class can be like the old ones too
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
Here's the 1990 Mercedes S-class. Notice how old fashion it is.
Old fashion? I think I know why! Production started in 1979 and ended in 1991. Nice try calling it a '90s S-Class though.
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Old fashion? I think I know why! Production started in 1979 and ended in 1991. Nice try calling it a '90s S-Class though.
So a 1990 and '91 model isn't a 90's model?? Also, I never referred to it as a "'90's S-class". Reread my posts.

So why didn't Benz redesign it sooner?

BTW, I posted those pics to show that Lexus couldn't have copied MB. Just look at them yourself. If anyone thinks a '90 LS400 looks like any previous Benz then they need to see an eye doctor. The LATER S-classes began to look more like the refined LS400.

Can anyone honestly show an example of Lexus copying MB?

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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Agreed on the lack of resemblance. There are some surface cues which the LS used, the two-tone treatment etc, but the Lexus distinctiveness was there. The LS 430 however did have a much closer appearance, but that was the exception.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by enigma888
Agreed on the lack of resemblance. There are some surface cues which the LS used, the two-tone treatment etc, but the Lexus distinctiveness was there. The LS 430 however did have a much closer appearance, but that was the exception.
Don't you see though, the LS430 was a smooth evolution of the original
LS400 (not that different). So again, how did they copy MB when MB's more modern model came after Lexus?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by @lpher
I just hope for their own sake that their rustproofing has gotten ALOT better on this new E-klass

Designwice..not that bad...and the 3gs lighting arrangement was a nice touch
Hmm.. I don't know I've checked out my pops '97 E420 W210 and thus far it's holding out pretty well no rust spots, oh well it's probably because I live in California hehe.. .

I don't know if it's really 3 gen GSish, maybe in the headlights probably. One thing, I've always loved about the E-Class is the fact that it's quite roomy, and has a useable trunk space, for a midsized sedan.

Like, I said it'll be very interesting to see this E-Class dressed up with a AMG bodykit or Sports Package.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JLSC4
So a 1990 and '91 model isn't a 90's model?? Also, I never referred to it as a "'90's S-class". Reread my posts.

So why didn't Benz redesign it sooner?

BTW, I posted those pics to show that Lexus couldn't have copied MB. Just look at them yourself. If anyone thinks a '90 LS400 looks like any previous Benz then they need to see an eye doctor. The LATER S-classes began to look more like the refined LS400.

Can anyone honestly show an example of Lexus copying MB?
You didn't call it a 90's S-Class, I'll give you that, but you were calling the S old fashioned when it was designed 10 years prior to the release of first LS.
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