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shyguy16 10-31-06 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by 16psibrick (Post 2214566)
i think its suppose to showcase how well the Legacy GT STI car can do against cars with as much as 140 MORE HP on a road course :)

Yeah, but don't forget it weighs about 1000 lbs less than the other 3 large luxury sedans.
weight is crucial on a track. that's why you see weak, yet nimble cars like the elise beating out much faster cars with a puny 1.8 liter engine.

16psibrick 10-31-06 10:32 PM

acutally, though i am not usre ont he celsior, the Stype R and the Fuga both weigh 500 or so lbs more than the legacy GT :) both those cares are around 4000 lbs while the LGT is around 3400-3500 depending on options...

but that track they are running isnt all THAT suited to a small nimble car, there are a few long straights where big HP cars like the fuga and the R can easily stretch their legs and pull away from the LGT :)

in all honesty, i find this still a bit surprising, the STI tune LGT is basicailly a Spec B LGT with some other minor mods, and to be honest, a spec B, doesnt really handle all that well, especially comapred to say an STI :)

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timoc42 11-01-06 06:54 PM

of course this test is not apples to apples.

the legacy, as mentioned, is a much more lighter car and would have a better weight/power ratio.

I would love to see this is repeated with a S500 (W220) and a 745li, and a A8 4.2 and a XJ8.

My guess is :
1st : 745i
2nd: LS430
3rd : A8
and so on ...

TwiBlueG35 11-02-06 01:16 AM

It's time to test the new generations of sports sedans.

16psibrick 11-02-06 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=timoc42;2216883]of course this test is not apples to apples.

the legacy, as mentioned, is a much more lighter car and would have a better weight/power ratio.
QUOTE]

acutally:

M45/fuga: 3995lb / 335hp = 11.9lb per hp
S type R: 4075lb / 400hp = 10.2lb per hp

legacy sti 3400lb / 250hp = 13.6lb per hp

:)

timoc42 11-02-06 10:05 AM

oopps... haha . i have no idea.
then maybe can i attribute it to the gearing, and just simply more mass around the track is harder to control ?

Mazinger 11-03-06 02:59 AM

That fuga has a stroker.


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