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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypnotik
There was a ton of advertising for the GS350. On almost every other street here, there were billboards advertising the GS350. Not to mention the commercial with the 2 GS's.


EDIT: There has also been alot of advertising for the ES and IS. Lexus in general has been advertising alot around here.
Maybe where you are but TMS came here on Clublexus and told US it is a soft release.
I will say I have seen ES ads, not as many IS ads and it must all just be generating a buzz and showroom traffic. I can agree with that point.

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Default American Honda Reports Record September Truck Sales . . .

TORRANCE, Calif., Oct. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Total September Honda and
Acura light truck sales increased 7.3 percent* over last year to 49,114
units and broke the previous September record of 44,271 set in 2004,
American Honda Motor Co., Inc. announced today. American Honda sales
continued on a record-setting pace of 1,160,510 cars and light trucks,
increasing 3.8 percent over last year on a daily selling rate basis,
putting the company on target for a 13th straight year of sales increases.

"Year-to-date, sales continue to show strong momentum," said ****
Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda. "Our diverse vehicle
lineup is well-equipped to adapt to a changing marketplace."

The Honda Division posted a strong month with 99,903 cars and light
trucks, yielding a year-to-date sales increase of 5.8 percent to 1,011,420
units. The Civic Hybrid model posted record September sales of 2,508 units,
an increase of 25.9 percent over the same period in 2005.

In addition, several light truck models posted September records,
including CR-V, Odyssey and Ridgeline, with increases of 18.5, 7.4 and 0.5
percent respectively compared with the same month last year. Honda Division
light truck sales increased 5.0 percent for the month to a record 43,408
units sold. Ridgeline pick-up truck sales are up 49.1 percent for the year
to 38,613 units.

Acura posted record September light truck sales of 5,706 units and
missed setting a new all-time September record by a mere 311 sales. The
all-new RDX crossover SUV posted 1,704 sales during its first full sales
month and the TL performance luxury sedan remained Acura's best selling
model in September, delivering 5,334 units.
* All Percentages calculated on 26 selling d
ays in September 2006 versus
25 selling days in September 2005 and 230 year-to-date selling days in
2006 versus 229 in 2005

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               American Honda Vehicle Sales For September 2006

                              Month-to-Date                Year-to-Date
                      September  September  DSR**  September  September  DSR**
                         2006       2005   % Chg.     2006       2005   % Chg.

    American Honda
     Total              116,226  121,163   -7.8%  1,160,510  1,112,917    3.8%
       Total Car Sales   67,112   77,157  -16.4%    665,012    649,564    1.9%
       Total Truck
        Sales            49,114   44,006    7.3%    495,498    463,353    6.5%
          Honda Total
           Car Sales     56,495   64,794  -16.2%    556,366    533,302    3.9%
          Honda Total
           Truck Sales   43,408   39,735    5.0%    455,054    418,906    8.2%
          Acura Total
           Car Sales     10,617   12,363  -17.4%    108,646    116,262   -7.0%
          Acura Total
           Truck Sales    5,706    4,271   28.5%     40,444     44,447   -9.4%
    Domestic Car Sales*  53,204   62,033  -17.5%    529,616    530,623   -0.6%
       Honda Division    47,870   55,805  -17.5%    475,342    472,092    0.3%
       Acura Division     5,334    6,228  -17.6%     54,274     58,531   -7.7%
    Domestic Truck
     Sales*              36,929   34,117    4.1%    379,474    348,609    8.4%
       Honda Division    31,223   29,846    0.6%    339,030    304,162   11.0%
       Acura Division     5,706    4,271   28.5%     40,444     44,447   -9.4%
    Import Car Sales     13,908   15,124  -11.6%    135,396    118,941   13.3%
       Honda Division     8,625    8,989   -7.7%     81,024     61,210   31.8%
       Acura Division     5,283    6,135  -17.2%     54,372     57,731   -6.2%
    Import Truck Sales   12,185    9,889   18.5%    116,024    114,744    0.7%
       Honda Division    12,185    9,889   18.5%    116,024    114,744    0.7%

    MODEL BREAKOUTS
     BY DIVISION
    Honda Division
     Total               99,903  104,529   -8.1%  1,011,420    952,208    5.8%
        Fit               1,986                      20,302
      Accord *           27,759   33,884  -21.2%    278,422    292,398   -5.2%
        Memo: Accord
         Hybrid             389    2,352  -84.1%      4,637     14,003  -67.0%
      Civic *            26,331   30,165  -16.1%    251,543    233,838    7.1%
        Memo: Civic
         Hybrid           2,508    1,916   25.9%     24,349     21,022   15.3%
      S2000                 400      659  -41.6%      5,391      6,533  -17.8%
      Insight                19       83  -78.0%        708        527   33.8%
      FCX                     0        3                  0          6
      Odyssey *          13,790   12,347    7.4%    139,378    133,639    3.8%
      Pilot *            10,001    9,198    4.5%    119,337    101,653   16.9%
      CR-V               12,185    9,889   18.5%    116,024    114,744    0.7%
      Element *           3,969    4,988  -23.5%     41,702     43,083   -3.6%
      Ridgeline           3,463    3,313    0.5%     38,613     25,787   49.1%
    Acura Division
     Total               16,323   16,634   -5.6%    149,090    160,709   -7.6%
      RSX                 1,385    1,606  -17.1%     15,397     16,287   -5.9%
      CL *                    0        0                  0          1
      TL *                5,334    6,228  -17.6%     54,274     58,530   -7.7%
      TSX                 2,882    2,960   -6.4%     29,837     27,817    6.8%
      RL                  1,015    1,552  -37.1%      9,081     13,446  -32.8%
      NSX                     1       17  -94.3%         57        181  -68.6%
      MDX *               4,002    4,271   -9.9%     37,379     44,447  -16.3%
      RDX *               1,704                       3,065
    Selling Days             26       25                230        229

     * Honda and Acura vehicles are made of domestic and global sourced parts.

    ** Daily Selling Rate


SOURCE American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Default Chrysler Group Reports U.S. Sales for September 2006

* Minivan sales improve 53 percent year-over-year, strengthening segment
leadership
* Jeep(R) Commander leads strong 11 percent increase in SUV sales, sets
monthly sales record
* Jeep Compass sales continue to gain momentum in the marketplace
* Dodge Nitro explodes into Dodge showrooms with strong September start

AUBURN HILLS, Mich., Oct. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Chrysler Group
reported sales for September 2006 of 168,888 units; a decline of 7 percent
(4 percent decline, unadjusted) compared to September 2005 sales of 175,556
units. Sales are reported on an adjusted basis unless otherwise indicated.

"The new, more fuel-efficient products in our portfolio are available
in the marketplace, and customers are responding positively to their
arrival," said Steven Landry, Vice President - Sales and Field Operations,
Chrysler Group. "The Dodge Caliber and Jeep(R) Compass are both strong
selling products and the Dodge Nitro is showing great momentum in the short
time it has been available. And, we've got more great products to launch in
the fourth quarter."

The performance of several products in key segments such as minivans
and sport-utility vehicles posted significant sales gains during September,
while new product introductions continue to gain momentum and lead the way
for additional new product deliveries in the fourth quarter.

Minivans
Chrysler Group strengthened its leadership in the minivan segment with
the Dodge Caravan and the Chrysler Town & Country, both of which offer the
exclusive Stow 'n Go(R) seating and storage system. Sales for Chrysler
Group minivans increased 53 percent, posting sales of 33,122 units for
September. Previous year sales were 20,784 units.

Sport-utility Vehicles
The Jeep Commander contributed to a strong 11 percent increase in sales
of the sport-utility category for the Chrysler Group and a 22 percent rise
in Jeep brand sales. The Jeep Commander posted a monthly sales record of
9,780 units, an increase of 517 percent over September 2005 sales of 1,524
units, the first month it was available.

New Products
Several new products contributed to Chrysler Group sales and are
receiving positive customer response. The Dodge Caliber, which is making
headway in the small car segment, posted healthy sales of 8,243 units in
September. Since its inception, the Dodge Caliber has posted sales of
68,001 units.

The Jeep Compass continues its strong momentum, posting sales of 3,680
units, an increase of 85 percent over August 2006 sales of 2,061 units. The
Jeep Compass expands the product portfolio of the Jeep brand with an
all-new, modern-styled compact Jeep that delivers fun, freedom, utility,
excellent fuel efficiency and Jeep 4x4 capability at a terrific value.

The Chrysler Aspen launched in September, posted sales of 734 units,
while the Dodge Nitro posted sales of 966 units in its first month of
availability. The all-new 2007 Chrysler Aspen is the latest addition to the
Chrysler brand showroom -- a premium SUV that is a value alternative to
luxury-priced competitors while offering fuel-saving MDS technology,
best-in-class torque, horsepower and interior room.

Chrysler Group announces its "All About The Best" 0 percent financing
for 60 months on a majority of 2006 Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge products.
Qualifying customers can choose 0 percent financing for 60 months or cash
back amounts up to $6,000. The program runs through Oct. 31, 2006. Chrysler 300, Dodge Magnum, and Dodge Charger vehicles are excluded.

"We intend to remain competitive in the marketplace with great new
fuel- efficient product introductions like the Jeep Compass and Dodge
Nitro," said Michael Manley, Vice President - Sales Strategy and Dealer
Operations, Chrysler Group. "Our hallmark is great products at a great
value with the best of American and German engineering and design. We
intend to rely on those strengths and offer something truly unique to
customers in the market who want to buy a new vehicle."

Chrysler Group finished the month with 533,220 units of inventory, or
an 82-day supply.
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             DaimlerChrysler Corporation U.S. Sales Summary Thru
                                September 2006


                         Month Sales        DR %     Vol %
            Model      Curr Yr    Pr Yr    Change   Change
    Sebring             1,664     6,116     -74%    -73%
    Concorde                0         0       0%      0%
    300                10,632    12,283     -17%    -13%
    Crossfire           1,431     1,227      12%     17%
    PT Cruiser         10,675    11,742     -13%     -9%
    Aspen                 734         0       0%      0%
    Pacifica            7,446     5,784      24%     29%
    Town & Country     14,629     8,394      68%     74%
      CHRYSLER BRAND   47,211    45,546       0%      4%
    Compass             3,680         0       0%      0%
    Wrangler            5,032     5,463     -11%     -8%
    Liberty            12,367    12,108      -2%      2%
    Grand Cherokee     11,034    14,025     -24%    -21%
    Commander           9,780     1,524     517%    542%
      JEEP BRAND       41,893    33,120      22%     26%
    Neon                   67    12,344     -99%    -99%
    Caliber             8,243         0       0%      0%
    Stratus               371     6,249     -94%    -94%
    Intrepid                0         0       0%      0%
    Charger            10,228     6,809      44%     50%
    Viper                 110        98       8%     12%
    Magnum              3,668     2,876      23%     28%
    Dakota              4,617     8,921     -50%    -48%
    Ram P/U            25,081    35,502     -32%    -29%
    Caravan            18,493    12,390      44%     49%
    Durango             5,652     9,656     -44%    -41%
    Nitro                 966         0       0%      0%
    Ram Van/Wagon           0         3    -100%   -100%
    Sprinter Van        2,288     2,042       8%     12%
      DODGE BRAND      79,784    96,890     -21%    -18%

      TOTAL CHRYSLER
       GROUP          168,888   175,556      -7%     -4%

        TOTAL CG
         CAR           33,716    45,941     -29%    -27%
        TOTAL CG
         TRUCK        135,172   129,615       0%      4%
    Selling Days           26        25


                          Sales CYTD        DR %      Vol %
            Model      Curr Yr    Pr Yr    Change    Change
    Sebring            46,726    68,543     -32%      -32%
    Concorde                0       210    -100%     -100%
    300               106,107   106,384      -1%        0%
    Crossfire           7,381    11,503     -36%      -36%
    PT Cruiser        106,114   100,179       5%        6%
    Aspen                 734         0       0%        0%
    Pacifica           60,885    67,282     -10%      -10%
    Town & Country    127,053   141,301     -10%      -10%
      CHRYSLER BRAND  455,000   495,402      -9%       -8%
    Compass             6,448         0       0%        0%
    Wrangler           54,234    64,697     -17%      -16%
    Liberty           103,214   130,986     -22%      -21%
    Grand Cherokee    109,158   163,821     -34%      -33%
    Commander          64,829     1,524    4135%     4154%
      JEEP BRAND      337,883   361,028      -7%       -6%
    Neon               17,044    99,332     -83%      -83%
    Caliber            68,001         0       0%        0%
    Stratus            50,284    77,167     -35%      -35%
    Intrepid                0       298    -100%     -100%
    Charger            87,768    23,721     268%      270%
    Viper               1,113     1,157      -4%       -4%
    Magnum             32,646    42,671     -24%      -23%
    Dakota             61,473    86,243     -29%      -29%
    Ram P/U           275,225   318,812     -14%      -14%
    Caravan           170,351   179,307      -5%       -5%
    Durango            53,417    90,792     -41%      -41%
    Nitro                 966         0       0%        0%
    Ram Van/Wagon           0       405    -100%     -100%
    Sprinter Van       16,777    14,337      17%       17%
      DODGE BRAND     835,065   934,242     -11%      -11%

      TOTAL CHRYSLER
       GROUP        1,627,948 1,790,672      -9%       -9%

        TOTAL CG
         CAR          394,407   403,838      -3%       -2%
        TOTAL CG
         TRUCK      1,233,541 1,386,834     -11%      -11%
    Selling Days          230       229


SOURCE Chrysler Group
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Default September 2006 U.S.Auto Sales Scorecard

Ford F-Series September's Number One Seller

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Reuters created this list of the September 2006 top 20 selling 
cars and light trucks the U.S. :

RANK VEHICLE                 2006     2005    '05 RANK %Chng 
1 Ford F-Series pickup      616,785   694,690   1      -11.2 
2 Chevy Silverado-C/K pickup486,901   570,278   2      -14.6 
3.Toyota Camry              340,905   336,349   3       +1.4 
4 Toyota Corolla / Matrix   306,353   265,426   6      +15.4 
5 Honda Accord              278,422   292,398   5       -4.8 
6 Dodge Ram P/U (pickup)    275,225   318,812   4       -13.7
7 Honda Civic               251,543   233,838   7        +7.6 
8 Chevrolet Impala          219,167   182,279   13      +20.2 
9 Chevrolet Cobalt          178,558   166,331   15       +7.4 
10 Nissan Altima            174,661   205,145   9       -14.9 
11 Dodge Caravan            170,351   179,307   12      - 5.0 
12 GMC Sierra pickup        159,733   187,371   10      -14.8 
13 Ford Taurus              147,996   161,667   16       -8.5 
14 Ford Explorer            143,270   196,878    8      -27.2 
15 Ford Focus               140,830   155,072   17       -9.2 
16 Honda Odyssey            139,378   133,639   20       +4.3 
17 Chevrolet Malibu         134,321   162,891   18      -17.5 
18 Chevrolet TrailBlazer    134,046   190,964   11      -29.8 
19 Ford Econoline/Club Wagon133,391   135,801   21       -1.8 
20 Ford Mustang             133,269   128,485   24       +3.7
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Default Kia Motors America Sets New September Sales Record

IRVINE, Calif., Oct. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Kia Motors America (KMA) today
announced a new September sales record of 23,877 units, a 2.0-percent
increase over the same period last year. Year-to-date sales also improved
over last year's record numbers, totaling 221,998 units for Kia, a
2.6-percent increase.

"Kia continues to build momentum with another month of record sales,"
said Len Hunt, executive vice president and COO of KMA. "With the new auto
show season on the way, keep an eye out for more exciting product from
Kia."

The Kia Sorento posted a strong September with 5,582 units sold. The
Kia Sportage also sold well with 3,178 units.

Kia Motors America -- the sales, marketing and distribution arm of Kia
Motors Corp. in Seoul, South Korea -- offers a complete line of vehicles
through more than 630 dealers throughout the United States. For more
information visit http://www.kiamedia.com.
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                           MONTH OF SEPTEMBER           YEAR-TO-DATE
    Model                   2006         2005         2006         2005

    Rio                    1,770        2,814       20,768       23,492
    Spectra                4,966        6,951       55,910       47,246
    Sportage               3,178        2,754       26,371       20,800
    Optima                 3,296        2,200       28,354       33,440
    Sedona                 4,680        3,419       41,481       42,534
    Sorento                5,582        4,186       41,141       35,418
    Amanti                   405        1,080        7,973       13,432

    Total                 23,877       23,404      221,998      216,362


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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Why am I laughing at the simple *** chart Kia has compared to everyone else.....
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Originally Posted by spwolf
hahahaha.

every month, same thing... getting ridicilous.
Right - every Lexus model stays even or drops and the IS saves the day. Same story every month.
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E-CLASS 4,112
5 Series 3,190
GS 2706
M 35/45 1,933
A6 1,061
RL 1,015
LS 446
S-TYPE 402
S80 130

I hope I did this right
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
E-CLASS 4,112
5 Series 3,190
GS 2706
M 35/45 1,933
A6 1,061
RL 1,015
LS 446
S-TYPE 402
S80 130

I hope I did this right
I was trying to look at this as well but I was trying to see if we could get enough information to only do the V8s and I don't think we have that for all the models. We all know the sixes outsell the eights but you have to wonder if the price of gas had much effect. I don't remember exactly but I think the 550 had something like 330 sales while the M5 was 99. I am not sure why I was fascinated by that. Whether the 550 was lower than I would have imagined or that there are that many people opting for the M5. About the only thing that really caught my eye, even though the numbers are down is that the 300C, Magnum, and Charger are selling around 24,000 a month. I think DC should be pretty pleased with that all things considered.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
blah, my bet is that they simply dont make enough money on them, so they wont allow more than certain number of Fits...

Since Fit sales around the world dropped by huge margins, story of unavailable cars is ridicilous.
Civic sales are down because production of all-new CRV is at full steam. This was expected.

Fit sales have always been dependent on supply. If Honda's supply was able to meet demand, then the Fit wouldn't have one of the shortest 'Days on lot' in the industry. Fit worldwide sales should be expected to drop. It is in fact an 'old' model everywhere else in the world. We've received the Fit in the US during the middle of it's model cycle.
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Originally Posted by doug_999
Originally Posted by spwolf
hahahaha.

every month, same thing... getting ridicilous.
Right - every Lexus model stays even or drops and the IS saves the day. Same story every month.
Not to mention the ES 350 is doing quite well! Although its increase is not some ridiculously high percentage jump, 11% higher than last year, it is selling in huge numbers!
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
Ford F-Series September's Number One Seller

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October 3, 2006

Reuters created this list of the September 2006 top 20 selling 
cars and light trucks the U.S. :

RANK VEHICLE                 2006     2005    '05 RANK %Chng 
1 Ford F-Series pickup      616,785   694,690   1      -11.2 
2 Chevy Silverado-C/K pickup486,901   570,278   2      -14.6 
3.Toyota Camry              340,905   336,349   3       +1.4 
4 Toyota Corolla / Matrix   306,353   265,426   6      +15.4 
5 Honda Accord              278,422   292,398   5       -4.8 
6 Dodge Ram P/U (pickup)    275,225   318,812   4       -13.7
7 Honda Civic               251,543   233,838   7        +7.6 
8 Chevrolet Impala          219,167   182,279   13      +20.2 
9 Chevrolet Cobalt          178,558   166,331   15       +7.4 
10 Nissan Altima            174,661   205,145   9       -14.9 
11 Dodge Caravan            170,351   179,307   12      - 5.0 
12 GMC Sierra pickup        159,733   187,371   10      -14.8 
13 Ford Taurus              147,996   161,667   16       -8.5 
14 Ford Explorer            143,270   196,878    8      -27.2 
15 Ford Focus               140,830   155,072   17       -9.2 
16 Honda Odyssey            139,378   133,639   20       +4.3 
17 Chevrolet Malibu         134,321   162,891   18      -17.5 
18 Chevrolet TrailBlazer    134,046   190,964   11      -29.8 
19 Ford Econoline/Club Wagon133,391   135,801   21       -1.8 
20 Ford Mustang             133,269   128,485   24       +3.7

Interesting numbers... # entries and totals top 20 by manufacturer:

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Ford:    6     1315541
GM:      6     1312726
Honda:   3      669343
Toyota:  2      647258
Dodge:   2      445576
Nissan:  1      174661

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Originally Posted by enigma888
Not to mention the ES 350 is doing quite well! Although its increase is not some ridiculously high percentage jump, 11% higher than last year, it is selling in huge numbers!
I honestly expected it to do better. It is a beautful car and showed some great numbers the previous months - which tells me those numbers were a combination ES330 and ES350 sales. My only thought is that it is at max capacity.

Ron - the 550/M5 numbers are down due to the model changeover. What is weird is that the M5 actually outsold the 550 from Sept 05-Dec 05 (not sure on the exact months).

edit: correction, only the M5 is going through a model changeover - but 5-series production was stopped during August for the "holiday"

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Originally Posted by RON430
I was trying to look at this as well but I was trying to see if we could get enough information to only do the V8s and I don't think we have that for all the models. We all know the sixes outsell the eights but you have to wonder if the price of gas had much effect. I don't remember exactly but I think the 550 had something like 330 sales while the M5 was 99. I am not sure why I was fascinated by that. Whether the 550 was lower than I would have imagined or that there are that many people opting for the M5. About the only thing that really caught my eye, even though the numbers are down is that the 300C, Magnum, and Charger are selling around 24,000 a month. I think DC should be pretty pleased with that all things considered.
We could break down E/5/GS sales but the others don't break it down by engine (or only offer 1 engine).
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Lightbulb Toyota & Honda Pass 2 of the Big 3 in Canada

Sales @ Toyota/Honda Overtake 2 of the Big 3
GREG KEENAN
AUTO INDUSTRY REPORTER

The old order that has dominated Canada's vehicle market for generations faded away in September as two of the once-mighty Big Three tumbled out of the top three rankings.

Toyota Canada Inc. and Honda Canada Inc. jumped into the second and third spots ahead of DaimlerChrysler Canada Ltd. and Ford Motor Co. of Canada Ltd., marking the first time both Japan-based companies have been in the top three.

Traditional leader General Motors of Canada Ltd. still tops the rankings with an 8-per-cent rise last month, but combined market share for the world's largest auto maker, Chrysler and Ford fell to less than 50 per cent in Canada last month for just the second time.

"This is a watershed moment in the history of the Canadian automotive sector," said analyst Dennis DesRosiers, who has been watching the industry for 20 years.

The strong showings by Honda and Toyota helped propel sales ahead by 9 per cent last month from year-earlier levels.

Last month's sales of 136,057 compare with the weak 124,447 performance a year earlier, but they still represent the first time this year that the industry has had two positive months in a row.

Chrysler, Ford and GM also posted sales increases, but they were outpaced by Honda, which rode a 46-per-cent surge to its best September on record.

Canadians bought a record 7,586 compact Civic cars last month.

That's more than twice as many Civics as Chrysler's total passenger car sales of 3,775 and more than Ford's car total of 4,154.

Toyota's sales jumped 12 per cent, giving it a record for September -- the ninth consecutive monthly record.

"The Japanese are benefiting from continuous improvement in their product, penetration of new segments of the market and a steady strengthening of their dealer bodies," said John Casesa, a veteran industry observer and managing partner of Casesa Shapiro LLC.

It's inevitable that Toyota's market share will grow in North America, Mr. Casesa added, because of Detroit's near-term strategy of shrinking in order to deal with a financial crisis.

Toyota was helped by a strong market in September in Canada, said Tony Wearing, managing director of Toyota Canada.

New products such as the mid-sized Camry and FJ sport utility vehicle have been well received, Mr. Wearing said, adding that Toyota has strong entries in two key markets in Canada -- subcompact and compact.

Neither Ford nor Chrysler has a subcompact to compete with Toyota's Yaris, the Honda Fit, the Versa from Nissan Canada Inc. and Chevrolet and Pontiac models from GM.

Mr. DesRosiers noted that sales rose for both Ford and Chrysler, just not to the same extent as at Honda and Toyota.

It's not the advent of a new Big Three, he said, but perhaps the beginning of a Big One, with GM in the lead and four rivals fighting it out for the second through fifth spots.

In the U.S. market, Toyota Motor Corp. came within a whisker of overtaking Ford Motor Co. for second spot behind General Motors Corp. and finished well ahead of No. 4 Chrysler.

Ford's sales rose 5 per cent, thanks to a recovery in sales of pickup trucks and long-suffering truck-based sport utility vehicles such as Explorer and Expedition.

GM's sales slid 7 per cent, while Chrysler posted a 4-per-cent decline.

The jump in Ford's SUV sales should not be taken as a sign of a turnaround in a critical market for the Detroit-based companies, said George Pipas, Ford's director of sales analysis.

"The rate of decline in these categories industry-wide might not be so severe as it has been in the past 24 months," Mr. Pipas said on a conference call.

That experience was not universal, however.

GM's mid-sized, frame-based SUVs slid in the U.S. market, while, Cadillac SUVs jumped up 35 per cent.

Sales of the Dodge Durango slumped 44 per cent for Chrysler in the United States.
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