Wikipedia lists the Biggest Automotive Flops of Our Time . . .
07-12-06, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
They need to list the whole brand pretty much, except 2 cars, the G35 and the new M35/45. The rest are all flops
07-13-06, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
XJ220 was a failure b/c they promised I think a V-12 and instead they got a damn V-6 TT. Hella people who put deposits down sued b/c they were promised one thing, got another. Jag sued back saying Kiss my behind, you bought it.
07-13-06, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
The J30 sold well during it's time but nothing compared to the GS 300. I believe the J30 was only around for one generation because the 3.0 liter V6 engine was upgraded to a 3.5 liter V6 which the I30 became the I35 and we also got the G35, M35 and FX 35...
07-13-06, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LexLaw
Your always on point and I love you Sick, but could you really call Nissan's Maxima a flop? I'm not exactly a fan of them nor have I ever owned one but they are good cars (at least I always thought they were) And we all know your boy Ghosen and his team at Nissan have sold a bunch of them.
I think they are superb.
07-13-06, 07:49 AM
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I don't care what any of you say. i still love the subaru SVX. too bad it has bearing and transmission problems.. if they remade that, i think it would be something sick..
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07-15-06, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
1 Vehicles
1.40 Toyota Project Genesis
1.40 Toyota Project Genesis
07-15-06, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Infiniti in their usual lost manner named the G35 the G though the G20 was FWD and the two cars share nothing. The G20 interior is better sadly. It just confuses consumers, and you DO NOT want to do that.
The G35 is based off the I think "IVL" concept, which was a virtual dead ringer for the looks of the G35 sedan. We didn't know a coupe was coming until last minute (and it is great looking car)
The J30 was RWD and used the 222 3.0 V-6 from the 300ZX but the odd styling and small interior killed it. There was a J30 t with mesh wheels and a wing but that failed too.
Thing is the Lexus 1GS 300 was a sales flop too after the initial 20,000 sold in 1993 but Lexus updated the GS 300 in 96 with a 5 speed and then made the revolutionary 2GS 300/400 while Inifnitii gave up and discontinued the J30. It is possible they didn't have the money at the time to bring in a new model.
My ex girlfriend in college had one. We always rode in my car
The G35 is based off the I think "IVL" concept, which was a virtual dead ringer for the looks of the G35 sedan. We didn't know a coupe was coming until last minute (and it is great looking car)
The J30 was RWD and used the 222 3.0 V-6 from the 300ZX but the odd styling and small interior killed it. There was a J30 t with mesh wheels and a wing but that failed too.
Thing is the Lexus 1GS 300 was a sales flop too after the initial 20,000 sold in 1993 but Lexus updated the GS 300 in 96 with a 5 speed and then made the revolutionary 2GS 300/400 while Inifnitii gave up and discontinued the J30. It is possible they didn't have the money at the time to bring in a new model.
My ex girlfriend in college had one. We always rode in my car
07-15-06, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
What about the Acura SLV?
07-16-06, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LexArazzo
1 Vehicles
1.1 Acura Vigor
1.2 AMC Pacer
1.3 Amphicar
1.4 Bricklin SV-1
1.5 Buick Reatta
1.6 Cadillac V8-6-4 variable cylinder engine
1.7 Cadillac Allante
1.8 Cadillac Cimarron
1.9 Caterham 21
1.10 Chevrolet Corvair
1.11 Chrysler Airflow
1.12 De Lorean
1.13 Dodge Dakota convertible
1.14 Dodge Charger Daytona/Plymouth Superbird
1.15 Dodge Rampage
1.16 Buckminster Fuller's 1933 Dymaxion car
1.17 Ford Ranger EV
1.18 Ford Taurus Ghia
1.19 GM EV1
1.20 GMC Envoy XUV
1.21 Hudson Jet
1.22 Hudson 1956-1957
1.23 Jaguar XJ220
1.24 Leyland P76
1.25 Lincoln Aviator
1.26 Lincoln Blackwood
1.27 Lincoln Versailles
1.28 Mazda Navajo
1.29 Mercury Marauder
1.30 Mitsubishi Raider
1.31 Nissan Axxess
1.32 NSU Ro 80
1.33 Oldsmobile 5.7 L diesel engine
1.34 Pontiac Aztek
1.35 Pontiac Fiero
1.36 Renault Avantime
1.37 Sinclair C5
1.38 Subaru SVX
1.39 Suzuki X-90
1.40 Toyota Project Genesis
1.41 Toyota T-100
1.42 Vauxhall Firenza hpF
1.43 Volkswagen 412
1.44 Volkswagen Phaeton
1.45 Yugo
Lot more details HERE
1.1 Acura Vigor
1.2 AMC Pacer
1.3 Amphicar
1.4 Bricklin SV-1
1.5 Buick Reatta
1.6 Cadillac V8-6-4 variable cylinder engine
1.7 Cadillac Allante
1.8 Cadillac Cimarron
1.9 Caterham 21
1.10 Chevrolet Corvair
1.11 Chrysler Airflow
1.12 De Lorean
1.13 Dodge Dakota convertible
1.14 Dodge Charger Daytona/Plymouth Superbird
1.15 Dodge Rampage
1.16 Buckminster Fuller's 1933 Dymaxion car
1.17 Ford Ranger EV
1.18 Ford Taurus Ghia
1.19 GM EV1
1.20 GMC Envoy XUV
1.21 Hudson Jet
1.22 Hudson 1956-1957
1.23 Jaguar XJ220
1.24 Leyland P76
1.25 Lincoln Aviator
1.26 Lincoln Blackwood
1.27 Lincoln Versailles
1.28 Mazda Navajo
1.29 Mercury Marauder
1.30 Mitsubishi Raider
1.31 Nissan Axxess
1.32 NSU Ro 80
1.33 Oldsmobile 5.7 L diesel engine
1.34 Pontiac Aztek
1.35 Pontiac Fiero
1.36 Renault Avantime
1.37 Sinclair C5
1.38 Subaru SVX
1.39 Suzuki X-90
1.40 Toyota Project Genesis
1.41 Toyota T-100
1.42 Vauxhall Firenza hpF
1.43 Volkswagen 412
1.44 Volkswagen Phaeton
1.45 Yugo
Lot more details HERE
Ah, now is see the error...who put the T-100 on the list...I knew this had to be an error. Here's the list I got off the link. Difference is: add the Cadillac Catera and take off the Toyota T-100.
# 1 Vehicles
* 1.1 Acura Vigor
* 1.2 AMC Pacer
* 1.3 Amphicar
* 1.4 Bricklin SV-1
* 1.5 Buick Reatta
* 1.6 Cadillac V8-6-4 variable cylinder engine
* 1.7 Cadillac Allante
* 1.8 Cadillac Catera
* 1.9 Cadillac Cimarron
* 1.10 Caterham 21
* 1.11 Chevrolet Corvair
* 1.12 Chrysler Airflow
* 1.13 De Lorean
* 1.14 Dodge Dakota convertible
* 1.15 Dodge Charger Daytona/Plymouth Superbird
* 1.16 Dodge Rampage
* 1.17 Buckminster Fuller's 1933 Dymaxion car
* 1.18 Ford Ranger EV
* 1.19 Ford Taurus Ghia
* 1.20 GM EV1
* 1.21 GMC Envoy XUV
* 1.22 Hudson Jet
* 1.23 Hudson 1956-1957
* 1.24 Isuzu Axiom
* 1.25 Jaguar XJ220
* 1.26 Leyland P76
* 1.27 Lincoln Aviator
* 1.28 Lincoln Blackwood
* 1.29 Lincoln Versailles
* 1.30 Mazda Navajo
* 1.31 Mercury Marauder
* 1.32 Mitsubishi Raider
* 1.33 Nissan Axxess
* 1.34 NSU Ro 80
* 1.35 Oldsmobile 5.7 L diesel engine
* 1.36 Pontiac Aztek
* 1.37 Pontiac Fiero
* 1.38 Renault Avantime
* 1.39 Sinclair C5
* 1.40 Subaru SVX
* 1.41 Suzuki X-90
* 1.42 Toyota Project Genesis
* 1.43 Vauxhall Firenza hpF
* 1.44 Volkswagen 412
* 1.45 Volkswagen Phaeton
* 1.46 Yugo
07-16-06, 10:13 AM
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I have to agree with the T-100 on the list. Like Acura does today, Toyota was a complete idiot not offering a V-8 and giving it super bland styling. It was a big MISS. Luckily they learn and put a V-8 in the Tundra.
Think about it, they didn't even keep the name T-100. Its a Tundra now.
Think about it, they didn't even keep the name T-100. Its a Tundra now.
07-16-06, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I have to agree with the T-100 on the list. Like Acura does today, Toyota was a complete idiot not offering a V-8 and giving it super bland styling. It was a big MISS. Luckily they learn and put a V-8 in the Tundra.
Think about it, they didn't even keep the name T-100. Its a Tundra now.
Think about it, they didn't even keep the name T-100. Its a Tundra now.
Still, check the link...Toyota T-100 is not on the list...who added it?? Does the list have a life of its own??
07-16-06, 10:41 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by Nextourer
What about the Acura SLV
What about the Acura SLV
Originally Posted by flipside909
That was a major flop...especially considering that and it's Trooper brother were on the top of the list of the SUV's most prone to rollovers.
I agree, however...... it does belong on the flop list.
As fas as it being at the top of the rollover-prone list, while it did in fact fail Consumer Reports' 1995-1996 testing, this vehicle was a long way from the Suzuki Samurai and Jeep CJ-5 in instability.
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