Of course I'm joking! (please refer to my **** star pun...)

I just want to reiterate the fact that people should keep in mind the function of their car. People buy big engines without thinking that perhaps a smaller car should suffice. There are a lot of people who buy BMWs for the name, and some people who buy because of their performance capabilities. There are a few people out there who drive Hyundais and Kias like it's a Z4. It just depends on driving style and capability, and if your car will handle your style and capability.

Now for people who are speed-happy and lack the courtesy of basic driving etiquette, they should be well aware that bad things come to those who look for it...

 

hey some of us CL members and even some Supra members with delicate deep dish rims drive below the speed limit.

 

so do you think you'd ever see a thread entitled " Has anyone else noticed this about Lexus drivers? " in a BMW forum ? ...most likely, nope

know why?....because most BMW don't give 2 poops about Lexus, they just care about their BMWs

but are there any threads in this forum that don't mention BMW ?

 

Actually there have been several threads on the BMW forums about the new IS. Mostly just BMW drivers reassuring each other that their precious 3-series is still better... But still. People on every car forum talk about every other kind of car. People here talk about Acura, Infiniti, plenty of other cars aside from BMW.

 

actually, there were quite a few positive comments on the BMW forums about the new IS...that's how i found out about it....i sure as hell wouldn't be on a Lexus forum if it wasn't for the IS 350

but still, there are waaaaaayy more comments on this forum about "BMW Owners" than there are comments about "Lexus Owners" on BMW forums...it just seems like on the BMW forums, people speak more about the perceived positives of owning their cars, without bashing other cars so much...here, it seems like it's pretty common for owners to build up their own cars by bringing down other cars

 

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any
vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal
speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be
driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable
to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing
another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing
for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or
driveway.
(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal
speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is
not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as
practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima
facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation
of subdivision (a) of this section

21659. Upon a roadway which is divided into three lanes a vehicle
shall not be driven in the extreme left lane at any time, nor in the
center lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle where
the roadway ahead is clearly visible and the center lane is clear of
traffic within a safe distance, or in preparation for a left turn, or
where the center lane is at the time allocated exclusively to
traffic moving in the direction the vehicle is proceeding and is
signposted to give notice of such allocation. This section does not
apply upon a one-way roadway.



21753. Except when passing on the right is permitted, the driver of
an overtaken vehicle shall safely move to the right-hand side of the
highway in favor of the overtaking vehicle after an audible signal
or a momentary flash of headlights by the overtaking vehicle, and
shall not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely
passed by the overtaking vehicle. This section does not require the
driver of an overtaken vehicle to drive on the shoulder of the
highway in order to allow the overtaking vehicle to pass

 

Or in other words, move over and allow the traffic to pass otherwise it is a citable offense. Do people get cited for it....you-betcha.

 

"21753. Except when passing on the right is permitted, the driver of
an overtaken vehicle shall safely move to the right-hand side of the
highway in favor of the overtaking vehicle after an audible signal
or a momentary flash of headlights by the overtaking vehicle, and
shall not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely
passed by the overtaking vehicle. This section does not require the
driver of an overtaken vehicle to drive on the shoulder of the
highway in order to allow the overtaking vehicle to pass "

So if someone is driving the speed limit on the far left lane, and you pull up behind them from a high rate of speed, say 100mph, you can flash your lights or honk and they legally have to move out of your way?

And the BMW drivers who are challenging the IS350's know that right now, they are all being broken in, and so they are having their last few chances at straightline highway speeding glory.

 

Good points!

 

I think you are getting too sensitive. Dont have to post this! Even if they really did that, now you are just telling them you got ticked off by what they do.

 

Actually that's very common here - I do it all the time and for the most part people move right on over. Sometimes people in the left not going fast enough are just road weary - that's just a polite "hey, let me by". Then again in 10 years in the SF Bay Area I only saw it once, and I'm pretty sure it resulted in a fight.

 

Apparently so.............Although driving 100mph is not what the law intended, if the 100mph driver did do this and were involve in a collision with you, your failure to yield might be concidered a contributing factor and raise your liability within the legal rhelm. This of course would be something a defense would argue.......

Bottom line is basically, yield the right of way. That is the intent of the law and is in the best interest of the motoring public.

 

Great point!

I think my biggest pet peeve is when people drive slow (or slower than I want to go) in the fast lane. Then people start to pass on the right side incorrectly rather than wait for people to mover over. It is dangerous to block traffic and for the same reason the drivers on the German Autobahn only pass on the left. It would be much more dangerous if people start passing on both sides and you dont know where to expect people to pass.

Not that I drive that fast but it is much safer to always have cars passing on the left.

Maybe people that like to drive fast are more likely to choose a BMW as their car so it becomes a self full filling prophecy with the fast drivers in BMWs. I have never had a BWM but I certainly drove too fast in my Audi TT. Even worse was in a rental car in Germany... got that 911 rental up to 168mph (270kph) on a flat section! Fortunately no campers in the left lane there and it was a 4 lane section with not much traffic in either of the 2 fast lanes. There was an M5 that was almost keeping up with me though.

 

Guys and Gals, we shouldn't bunch all drivers into one group b/c of what a couple clowns did. I for one think BMW drivers are either calm on the road, I cannot say I've ever ran into many BMW guys trying to prove points. This is my opinion.


























































But those #()$()#() Honda owners, they got issues

 

But sometimes there is heavy traffic, and all lanes are moving about the same speed. This was the case on Sunday. Obviously I wanted to go faster, as did everyone else in the left lane, but there was just no way. Too much congestion. In this case, driving aggressively by tailgating is completely pointless. The driver just wants all the other traffic to get out of the way so that he can drive faster. Obviously everyone else wants this too. Mostly I just let people by in this case because them tailgating me is a serious safety hazard and I don't want to get rear-ended, so I let them by even though I don't want to "reward" them for this dangerous behavior.

unit74, what do you recommend in this situation? Traffic is heavy in all lanes, and lanes are all moving about the same speed, which is around the speed limit or a little below. The heavy traffic means all lanes are full, so no one is just using the left lane for passing. But let's say the left lane is moving slightly faster. Then what do you do?