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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Well NEO, it seems we are still disagreeing and until we resolve it, there will always be something for us to be concious about. The problem with this particular thread is that I think it's an attack on the owner when someone attacks his life style or pride and joy. You don't think it's a big deal, but feels that because I think it is a big deal, I'm causing all this mess. The Acccord 745 thread was even more heated and I stuck to the topic and didn't hack on anyone personally. Yet you still seem to think I will cause more problems in the future. So I don't know what to say except that you are being prematurely unfair to me. You assume to know how I will react based on just two threads. To make you feel better and get this off your shoulder once and for all, I'll say this.

Regarding the future, it all depends. You never know what people will say cuz you never know what will offend who, when or with what. I'll bet you technol doesn't even know he got on my case with his post. Technol doesn't even seem to care, only someone else seem to have a problem with me taking issue with his remarks and name calling. So it depends, there's too many variable as to why people start knocking on each other. But now that I'm aware of your concern, I will make a concious attempt to stay with the subject at hand. I'll do that just for you. I don't think it's going to help or change anything, but I'm willing to try your approach( actually I've already started) I'll stick with the topic at hand no matter how nasty it may get and refrain myself from addressing anyone unless I'm being nice to them. Is that good? You can hold this against me.

Of course nothings free...my only request from you is whenever shyt happens, fairly look at the overall situation first and not automatically put me on the top of your list of people to blame just because you feel I have a pattern. Fair?

Anyway, gotta go...it's friday...lots of fine booties to pickup.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EGainer
wow flipside just became celicamaro, and celicamaro was being funny by acting like that, bc he's saying we act like that toward the other car...

except that the majority wins, and its not bc they are the majority, it's bc it's common appeal

on AVERAGE, you know when you see a beautiful person, and when you see an ugly person

celicamaro happens to think that whenever we see an ugly person, we should not think they are ugly, bc someone, somewhere thinks different....

well con-f'n-gratulations for them.

in this case, with this honda, no one thinks it looks good. not on mb forum, or honda accord forum.... so explain that

saying he did lots of work and congratulating him on that is not the same thing as thinking the car looks good. in this case, NO ONE has said the car doesnt look bad except for you

so you are that one person who thinks that really ugly "person" is good looking. you are the single one alone. that is why you get slammed. but not only do you not think that the car is not bad looking, but you think we shouldn't make fun of it bc it is....

that is where you are wrong. so you get slammed for not thinking like us, thats one thing. then you get slammed bc you tell us we shouldnt make fun of it... thats two

if instead of telling us what not to do, and you just say you dont think its that bad, none of this stuff woudl ever happen.

if your post had gone like this "man that car has a lot of work done. i don't actually think it looks that bad. looks like he spent lots of time and money doing it, props to him for doing that. i don't know if i would actually drive it, but he did a good job on modding that car"

then you will have people saying, no way man, that car is ugly.... but they wont be saying, wtf why are you telling me not to make fun of it

you talk to other members, they make fun of the car.... your little example there trying to say that's not how you are, is wrong. you are like that, you confront the members, and then they do it back to you. then it turns into this

when 1sicklex first posted, i didnt say, man you shouldnt be making fun of him, its his car, let him do what he wants.... and do you know why i didnt say that.... bc he can have his opinion, just as you can have yours. but you start turning it into telling us what we should and should not do....

besides the fact that the car looks like it has deep fryers in the back, and that the gaps between the doors are too wide, the car has pretty decent work done on it.

but as someone said in the accord forum "why spend 100k on car that in the end, still drives like a 94 honda accord"
Didn't mod say not to slam members for their view? Just stick to topic at hand?
Yeah I was being sarcastic, but you see my point don't you? AM I NOT RIGHT? No one is looking at that car. NOT ONE, what is the chance of that happening at an import carshow? He spent all that time and money to look stock, but he painted the headlight. Now that car can't be driven on the street. So regardless what you think all the other stuff before here has been, I have a legit point with this car.

- That's jacked up when his friends knock his style.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Celicamaro
Yet you still seem to think I will cause more problems in the future.
Yes ....i forsee any "Rice " thread having a post by you ....and in that post you will side with the car that is being made fun of

So I don't know what to say except that you are being prematurely unfair to me.
first impressions carry alot of weight around here and i think i know where you stand



but you may come around LOL ...go have fun tonight and remember we are a bunch of guys behind computers
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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CelicaCamero, I suggest just ignore this thread b/c I haven't even started.

Look at me, I drive a MANUAL Lexus ES 300. I have gotten my share of jokes or snide remarks IN PERSON (not on the net like in this thread) b/c "who the hell buys a manual Lexus". That is their opinion, shoot, they have a point. The manual ES sold so badly, it was discontinued.

With this guy, he took a 15k Honda and invested 100k in it. You don't think people are going to make fun of it?

You fail to realize on the INTERNET, people will find pics, post them and comment, good remarks or remarks that some won't like.

You fail to realize that the majority of people in the world would agree that investing 100k in a 15k Honda is foolish.

No one has said the guy doesn't ENJOY his ride. Good for him. But your not going to convince anyone here, we are wrong for talking about the guy.

And I will continue to say, he is on crack to invest 100k in that car and to make his HONDA look like a LEXUS or SL, when he could have bought THE REAL THING with the money he spent in mods.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
CelicaCamero, I suggest just ignore this thread b/c I haven't even started.
LOL. You do not want 1SICKLEX to get started.

Originally Posted by CelicaCamaro
Well NEO, it seems we are still disagreeing and until we resolve it, there will always be something for us to be concious about.
Believe it or not, I don't want you to agree with me. Different opinions are healthy as long as talking about them do not become malicious (and it has not).

I don't think EGainer was knocking your views either. I think he was just trying to give his take on your post content and how it affected this thread and its readers.

Originally Posted by CelicaCamaro
The problem with this particular thread is that I think it's an attack on the owner when someone attacks his life style or pride and joy.
Unfortunately, this will happen on the net. Global info sharing is a female dog. As I explained earlier, it goes both ways for me. I am not without feeling but when I post pics of my car on the net, I already anticipate that there will be negatives and hope for positives. It is just the way it is. I do not feel attacked at all. It was my choice to post the pics and I have to live with other people's views.

Originally Posted by CelicaCamaro
You don't think it's a big deal, but feels that because I think it is a big deal, I'm causing all this mess.
Well, to me, the course of the thread did change after your post. I will shoulder some of the blame as I continue to try to explain to you what happened here. I am not asking for you to change your opinion about cars or on the tolerance exhibited by others. I just wanted to show you the cause and effect.

my only request from you is whenever shyt happens, fairly look at the overall situation first and not automatically put me on the top of your list of people to blame just because you feel I have a pattern. Fair?
Absolutely. I will blame the appropriate person when the need arise.

Anyway, gotta go...it's friday...lots of fine booties to pickup.
Now this we can agree on (although that was me when I was unattached and younger).

BTW - Earlier. I did see your response in the "Look at this wing" thread. No controversy there.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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basically. eric is right... you can voice your opinion on the car

but don't tell others to not say what they think about it.... end of story

im changing my position to moderator since, i am so sweet and all... lol

from now on, only posts abotu the accord, no more posts about celicamaro's posting habits

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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Guys with cars like this....especially in New York....usually have girls working for them.......girls with names like Candy, Bubbles, Peaches, Snowflake, etc......
com on now Marshall. Especially in New York guys with girls working for them name candy and bubbles. don't drive cars like that. they usually have big *** escalate(room for 12 or 14). so get your **** right.. anyways.. i don't wana be hatting on him or his people. but dud's like him usually owns gas stations and supermarkets.. making $$$$.. i have a family that lives on my block in a middle class area(sunset park).. freaking dud has a Viper parked on their lot..

anyways..it's somewhat of a waste for 100G, if he wanted to be noticed.. why didn't he waste his money on a Lambo(used) , NSX ,or Lotus.. freaking bootleg bootleg SC430 . but for a dud to drive a honda and wanting it to look like a lexus , makes me feel good that i chose the es300 over the acura intge. oo wells.. i guess when you're loaded with cash , you just do stupid things.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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LOL. You do not want 1SICKLEX to get started.
VERY VERY true. i really wanted to read the past 10 to 15 msg, but i just told myself not to

and don't even attempt to get 1sick started.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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I haven't seen the Accord around Queens but I have seen the GS-4runna, looks like he changed it up a bit but I liked the last rendition.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
CelicaCamero, I suggest just ignore this thread b/c I haven't even started.

Look at me, I drive a MANUAL Lexus ES 300. I have gotten my share of jokes or snide remarks IN PERSON (not on the net like in this thread) b/c "who the hell buys a manual Lexus". That is their opinion, shoot, they have a point. The manual ES sold so badly, it was discontinued.

With this guy, he took a 15k Honda and invested 100k in it. You don't think people are going to make fun of it?

You fail to realize on the INTERNET, people will find pics, post them and comment, good remarks or remarks that some won't like.

You fail to realize that the majority of people in the world would agree that investing 100k in a 15k Honda is foolish.
I feel your pain, like I said before, majority rules. YOU ALSO NEED BACKUP.

It's not that I "fail to realize that the majority of people in the world would agree that investing 100k in a 15k Honda is foolish". Other people have spent way more restoring junkers from the 20s thru the 60s and everything else those particular enthusiasts deem worthy of their hard earn money. Majority of trash talkers seem to favor old cars and restoring back to stock is respected while creating something different out of something stock seemed stupid and a waste of money especially when there's a Honda name attach to it. They are more sympathetic towards what they like and unusaully cruel and unfair towards those they don't like. And there lies all the worlds problems.

I also realize that people on the net will post and say things they normally don't have the cojones to say or do in real life because they know what's going to happen if they do express their opinions. Playing virtual bully seems to help sooth that darker side for many "opinionated" folks.

No one has said the guy doesn't ENJOY his ride.
But they do seem to say things that suggest there's something wrong with the guy and call his pride and joy a POS. When someone else jumps in to say something like "if you stop knocking these people for doing what they want to their rides or questioning their state of mind than you wouldn't feel the need to call their ride a POS or question their state of minds." Of course this is viewed as a direct attack, now the trash talkers feel someone else is trying to tell them what to do, when in reality someone is just pointing out the cause and effect. Those who like to dish it out, generally are the first to get offended when the same happens to them.

But your not going to convince anyone here, we are wrong for talking about the guy.
Agree there, majority rules, even if majority knows what they're doing is wrong. But I can't really blame it on all the majority since only a few amongs the majority feel they have to constantly justify their wrongness and shootdown all those who don't share their views with abrasive posts. Perhaps we can start a coup to suppress those who few "troubled" individuals and start endouraging positive views about MANUAL ES300?
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by T.L.W.
Yes ....i forsee any "Rice " thread having a post by you ....and in that post you will side with the car that is being made fun of
Did you forsee anything else? For example: The same people who normally side against these "rice" cars will also be posting too.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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I don't think EGainer was knocking your views either. I think he was just trying to give his take on your post content and how it affected this thread and its readers.
He's basically doing the same thing you are in his own way. But why does he feel he has to? Isn't that taking thread off topic even more? You and I have already done that more than everyone else combined and I feel bad about it. I'm just curious why you would have to justify his post. Does he feel you are not doing a good enough job and need to help out? Or does he think I have a comprehension problem and need to re-itterate? Eitherway, thread is further going off topic. I just want you understand that I understand what both of you are trying to say, but I don't know if you both or anyone else know that I understand.

Gainer already said people are slamming me for not sharing their views and slam me again for telling them what to do. He'd already acknowledge that Flip99 has already become the old me, that means people are going to address others rather than staying with subject at hand cuz they disagree with someone elses view. I didn't bother responding to Flip, I was hoping you would.

Egainer is basically confirming that both our reasons why threads like this go off topic are right. But he leans more towards your view based on some of the post in this thread while the more heated Accord 745 thread back my view. So we're going nowhere.

Well, to me, the course of the thread did change after your post. I will shoulder some of the blame as I continue to try to explain to you what happened here. I am not asking for you to change your opinion about cars or on the tolerance exhibited by others. I just wanted to show you the cause and effect.
I thought that's what I was doing, showing the cause and effect. Sure I was offended that Technol called that dudes ride a POS and saying Honda guys are always trying to hide their vehicles identity. But he also ask, "what's wrong with Honda?" So I answer..."people like you".

We all know there's nothing wrong with Honda (unless it's a lemon from the factory). Everyone know Honda makes some of the most reliable, innovative, economical and fun to drive vehicles on the planet. They're the only company to give all mighty Toyota worthy competition. Honda is the #1 choice for young enthusiasts. Been like that for almost 2 decades now. These are facts. Obviously Honda vehicles are awesome enough that this dude is willing to use one of their model as a foundation to invest his 100k on instead of a Lexus, BMW, Merc, Porsche or some other make. But TECHNOL still called it a POS and many others have suggested the same. Some Honda guys have also said, it still drives like a 94 Accord even after 100K in mods. 94 Accord is a dam good driving car to over 200,000 people. Nothing to be ashame off.

So the only problem with Honda must be people like Technol. It's the only logical answer IMO. I'd be very curious to hear why that wouldn't be so. He ask a question, I gave him the only answer that make sense. It's NOT a putdown for my own personal satisfaction, it's the right answer if one takes the process of elimination approach. Unfortunately the truth isn't always very popular and makes some people feel they have to take cheapshots at me as a way to justify why they are not the cause. Thread goes off tangent from there.

Either way, it looks like we're just treading over the same ground and will never agree, so I apologize for keeping this up.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Celicamaro
it looks like we're just treading over the same ground and will never agree,
that is the only intelligent and agreeable thing I've have heard from you yet. give it a rest man-your long winded BS replies are worthless and nobody likes to hear the crap you spew but you. Why don't you go somewhere else if you can't stand CL member views, I doubt anyone here would miss you.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Yeah, I' ve never seen anyone spend so much time writing so much about absolutely nothing
Thanx though I don't recall I' ve started many threads with more than 100 replies



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