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Old May 28, 2026 | 07:36 PM
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I store all my excess energy in batteries for use after the sun goes down
totally immune to gas prices fluctuations

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Old May 28, 2026 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
totally immune to gas prices fluctuations
Uh how? Oil is used in literally everything.....
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
If you're electricity rates are low, it's probably not worth spending the money, but here rates are high, and being stuck with PG&E they charge you for the electricity itself as well as "transmission" fees, so you end up paying .38 cents on the low end (off peak) and almost .60 cents on the high end, between 4pm and 9pm. Solar off-sets that, and with two Tesla Power walls I store excess energy in the day and my house switches to batteries after 4pm. It saves me money and I don't give those bastards any of my excess power so they can resell it at a higher rate
what are the rates?
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Old May 28, 2026 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
what are the rates?
He literally said what they are in that same post. Come on.
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All in I am paying $0.23 per kWh. For electric only it’s $0.166 per kWh but there are a bunch of other fees like distribution fees that are a little over $0.05 per kWh.
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Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil
Here in Chattanooga it would cost 12 pennies kWh no matter what time of day.
In IL I was paying 11 cents/kWh all day every day. I'm currently paying 0 cents per kWh at an Airbnb in FL.

It will be interesting to see what I'll be paying once our house is finished and I start paying for it. I'm afraid to look.
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Originally Posted by Mike728
In IL I was paying 11 cents/kWh all day every day. I'm currently paying 0 cents per kWh at an Airbnb in FL.
Which service area are you in? ComEd (Chicagoland) was 13.9 cents/kWh through May of last year (6.6 cents for supply, 6.1 for delivery, 1.2 taxes/fees), then in June 2025 was increased to 17.4 cents/kWh. Current breakdown is 10 cents supply, 6.2 delivery, 1.2 taxes/fees.

That said, in the past year I only actually paid those rates in January and February. YTD I've produced more than I've used, and hoping to roll over enough credits this summer/fall to carry us through next winter:


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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
what are the rates?
I stated them earlier but I will post the official PG&E rates later today
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Here is the latest for our 2023 Model Y



That's 614 Miles of driving, if you convert this to gasoline, it would equal 5.1 gallons. Not as efficient as my Model 3, but it's roughly 122 MPGe, which is still amazing for 384 HP car. Actual cost due to solar is around $31
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@Toys4RJill Here is the PG&E EV rate schedule



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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
@Toys4RJill Here is the PG&E EV rate schedule


what is the reason why the cost is that high? Interesting there is an income tier. We have rebates here

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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
what is the reason why the cost is that high? Interesting there is an income tier. We have rebates here
Because they are a crooked company that has our governor, legislator and the Public Utilities Commission in their pockets
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Because they are a crooked company that has our governor, legislator and the Public Utilities Commission in their pockets
aside from that. What about the infrastructure? Is there renewable energy in California ?
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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
aside from that. What about the infrastructure? Is there renewable energy in California ?
Renewable and zero-carbon resources supply roughly 52% to 67% of California's electricity, depending on how large hydroelectric and nuclear power are classified. Under the state's Renewables Portfolio Standard (RPS) program—which excludes large hydro—certified renewables make up about 41% of the total power mix. [1, 2]
The approximate breakdown of in-state and imported renewable and zero-carbon generation includes the following:

Renewable & Zero-Carbon Energy Breakdown
  • Solar (utility-scale and rooftop): ~32% of total generation (largest renewable source)
  • Large Hydroelectric: ~10% to 12% of total generation (varies by snow/rainfall)
  • Wind: ~7% to 9% of total generation
  • Geothermal: ~4% to 6% of total generation
  • Nuclear (Zero-Carbon): ~7% to 12% of total generation
  • Biomass & Biogas: ~2% to 3% of total generation [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Remainder of the Grid
Non-renewable sources—primarily natural gas—make up the remaining 35% to 37% of the state's energy mix, while coal accounts for only a negligible fraction (less than 1%). [1, 2]
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Renewable and zero-carbon resources supply roughly 52% to 67% of California's electricity, depending on how large hydroelectric and nuclear power are classified. Under the state's Renewables Portfolio Standard (RPS) program—which excludes large hydro—certified renewables make up about 41% of the total power mix. [[url=https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/14/in-historic-first-california-powered-by-two-thirds-clean-energy-becoming-largest-economy-in-the-world-to-achieve-milestone/]1, 2]
The approximate breakdown of in-state and imported renewable and zero-carbon generation includes the following:

Renewable & Zero-Carbon Energy Breakdown
  • Solar (utility-scale and rooftop): ~32% of total generation (largest renewable source)
  • Large Hydroelectric: ~10% to 12% of total generation (varies by snow/rainfall)
  • Wind: ~7% to 9% of total generation
  • Geothermal: ~4% to 6% of total generation
  • Nuclear (Zero-Carbon): ~7% to 12% of total generation
  • Biomass & Biogas: ~2% to 3% of total generation [[url=https://www.eia.gov/states/CA/analysis]1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Remainder of the Grid
Non-renewable sources—primarily natural gas—make up the remaining 35% to 37% of the state's energy mix, while coal accounts for only a negligible fraction (less than 1%). [[url=https://www.eia.gov/states/CA/analysis]1, 2]
very interesting. Does California have excess electricity generation? up here we have very cheap electricity. We pay on average $.10 USD per kWh. Quebec is $.5c USD. we also export electricity to the United States. We have very few coal power plants , but we exported a lot of coal to China for steel and power generation

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