I dont know what kind of comparison is that but yea when I fill up, I fill up 100%. I dont fill up 80% and say its good enough and it certainly wont take me 30 mins to do that. Yes people drive gas cars around with less a full tank all day long because everyone knows they can find a gas station and fill up in 5 mins so yes its a non issue. And when the light comes on, I know I have a few gallons of reserve to get me to the nearest station or drive for another week depending on how brave you are. When an EV says 0 range, it means 0 and you become a roadblock that everyone flips off.

 

And with an EV it charges up every night while you sleep, so in your day to day use you never have to think about charging or refueling. And not every car has some gallons of reserve when it says 0 lol. Your gas car becomes a roadblock when it runs out of gas same as an EV does if it runs out of charge. In my life I have NEVER run out of gas and I would never run out of charge either because I'm not an idiot.

Its one thing to say "I just don't want to think about that" but its another thing to try and contort logic to make this out to be some absurdly arduous thing to deal with...its just not. Its like me and having an EV for road trips...I just don't really want to deal with that...but I don't try and pretend its some horrible thing I couldn't easily deal with if I wanted to. Letting the car charge for 20 minutes on a trip a few times a year whIle I go to the bathroom and get some food is no big deal on any level. Would I rather not have to do that? Yes...but its not a big deal.

 

God bless those people. I basically plug in every three days, I've gone long distances leaving with just 38 percent. But I get it, an EV is not for you. I'm not judging you, you don't have to prove or justify anything to me, drive what makes you most comfortable

 

One of the things that confused me about Evs and Phevs was I too mistakingly thought they should be charged to 100% on every charge.

For me this comes from decades of plugging my rechargeable batteries for my hand tools and waiting until they were done.

The Ev guys have posted about this many times that a 100% charge is actually not always desirable.

So now I think about battery charge like gas.
1/4 tank, 1/2 tank, 3/4 tank, etc.

Duh... I get it now... lol
An 80% charge would last me a month for the.miles I drive.
But, I'd still want to charge from home or no deal.
No biggie, can do level 1 charging or run a new breaker and put in level 2.

 

None of the above.

 

It’s a mental shift for sure.

 

None of the above and I normally park any of the non-daily cars with a full tank or I refill them from storage when back home.

If I did get anything it would be an assist type hybrid at most like the E-ray or ZR1-X mostly for the ability to shuffle the car around without an ignition cycle of the engine.

 

Hybrids are ok.
I get it, some extra power boost and better mpgs around town.

But, for how many miles I drive(verry little) the cost savings for gas wouldn't be worth the extra cost and complexity of the drivetrain.

If I had to choose between only the 3 choices above I'd skip the hybrid for what I need.

But I understand why lots of people like it.

 

Nothing is being contorted. If I'm charging my EV from anywhere, I want to charge to 100% in a few mins and not think about it. I dont want to go home and plug and unplug another appliance. I dont want to deal with remembering to charge something. In the grand scheme of things, it is no big deal but it is not progress if it adds things on to my to-do list. Right now, I gas up every week or every other week and call it good until I need gas.

Btw, name 1 car that doesnt have a gas reserve? I cant imagine any car manufacturer would be dumb enough to hold back some gas reserve. Just name 1 so I can steer clear of their cars. I know you like to be right and know everything so just name 1.

 

Ok, ok.
If you can only choose one of the 3 choices above, which would it be.

This thread is a thought exercise.

 

I chose PHEV. Eventually it will be an EV now that Toyota and Lexus has dipped at least 6 toes into the water. The industry will follow after seeing how Toyota can do it without losing billions. They are technically on their 2nd gen of EVs and I feel like 300-400hp is the sweet spot. Now they can work on refining the entire system, which they are really great at if their Hybrids are anything to go by, over the next 10yrs and dominate the market. TBH, they really only have to work on range, charging and perhaps better efficiency.

 

Yeah, that's where I'm at too.
If I HAD to choose Ev, I think I'd go Tesla or the ID4.

But, If I had lots of money, there are other nice options.

 

I can't ever own a Tesla. Yes it is for political reasons and Enron comes across as a fraud now that he's shown his true colors. White, pure **** white if you have to ask. I hope his billionaire friends are ok with just going to the moon next year instead of Mars.

 

I know you mean well but please don't sabatoge this thread with politics.

I will report political posts, I gave fair warning above.

 

Pretty much anything from Germany. When the DTE reads zero, you have literally minutes before stalling out. Back when I had my E46, for example, I once let it count down below "1" to "--". When I stopped a few miles later (probably 4?), I put 16.4 gallons into the 16.2 gallon tank.