Car models that are NOT selling

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Jul 6, 2025 | 12:33 AM
  #61  
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The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it
With fuel economy requirements increasing each year and approaching 54 mpg, the majority of new car sales need to be hybrids.
Domestic manufactures didn't see this as achievable or profitable and withdrew from the market.

Fuel economy requirements killed the V-8 engine, the MPG financial penalty brought the end to the Dodge Charger and Challenger.
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Jul 6, 2025 | 02:18 AM
  #62  
Quote: I agree, but, as I recall, that's not what you said in the past.

The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it....except, maybe, because they just wanted the factory-space to build more trucks and crossovers.
BIL had a Fusion with Ecoboost. He lemon it. I think he got a Mercedes E class after that.
Niece had a Focus with the defective transmission. Traded for Corolla.
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Jul 6, 2025 | 07:00 AM
  #63  
Quote: With fuel economy requirements increasing each year and approaching 54 mpg, the majority of new car sales need to be hybrids.
Domestic manufactures didn't see this as achievable or profitable and withdrew from the market.
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As I recall, both the Ford Fusion and its upmarket Lincoln MKZ twin had hybrid versions.
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Jul 6, 2025 | 05:23 PM
  #64  
Quote: Lots of talk in this thread about what vehicle sells and what doesn't....but let's face some facts. Some vehicles aren't selling because people simply can't AFFORD them. Inflation across the board in the last several years has hit a lot of people hard, and they have to use more of their income just to pay the monthly bills, leaving less of the disposable-income for big-ticket items like a new vehicle.
That will sort itself out on its own. Eventually the prices will come down in order for the cars to sell.
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Jul 6, 2025 | 07:16 PM
  #65  
Quote: That will sort itself out on its own. Eventually the prices will come down in order for the cars to sell.
Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down.

Bringing back sedans isn’t the answer lol
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Jul 6, 2025 | 09:44 PM
  #66  
Quote: Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down.
Occasionally, it does happen, like it did in 2024 when Buick dropped the list price on the Encore GX..but it was only a couple of hundred dollars, and, to compensate, the standard temporary spare tire gave way to the ubiquitous tire-inflation kit....with the temporary spare now an option. Occasionally, you also see some minor dips in the MSRP, but, I agree, they are usually not substantial.

There was, however, at least one notable exception I can think of. You are probably not old enough to remember this, but when Ford downsized the Thunderbird in 1977, there was a corresponding $2000 price-drop, in 1977 dollars....which was really significant for that era.



^^^1976 Thunderbird



^^^^1977 Thunderbird



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Bringing back sedans isn’t the answer lol
It may or may not be. Predicting the future can often be quite difficult, and consumer tastes sometimes change. Right now, crossovers are the rage, but it is no guarantee that that will last.
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Jul 7, 2025 | 04:02 AM
  #67  
Quote: Occasionally, it does happen, like it did in 2024 when Buick dropped the list price on the Encore GX..but it was only a couple of hundred dollars, and, to compensate, the standard temporary spare tire gave way to the ubiquitous tire-inflation kit....with the temporary spare now an option. Occasionally, you also see some minor dips in the MSRP, but, I agree, they are usually not substantial

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That tire inflation kit was recalled for a defect was it not?


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It may or may not be. Predicting the future can often be quite difficult, and consumer tastes sometimes change. Right now, crossovers are the rage, but it is no guarantee that that will las
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There are still over a million + sedans sold in the USA every year. Very large segement still. Unfortunately the American brands have lost that segment
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Jul 7, 2025 | 04:23 AM
  #68  
Quote: Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down.
guess you forgot about tesla… #massivepricecuts 🤣
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Jul 7, 2025 | 07:46 AM
  #69  
Quote: That tire inflation kit was recalled for a defect was it not?

No. The recall on the 2020-2021 models was for the temporary spare...to exchange a plastic jack for a metal one. I'm a GM fan, but I agree.....there wasn't much excuse for that LOL.


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There are still over a million + sedans sold in the USA every year. Very large segement still. Unfortunately the American brands have lost that segment
As I recall, the Ford Fusion sold pretty well when it was axed. I think that, for whatever reason, the Ford marketers just didn't want to sell it any more, either because it was not profitable enough for them, or they needed the factory space for more trucks and crossovers.
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Jul 7, 2025 | 12:16 PM
  #70  
Quote: guess you forgot about tesla… #massivepricecuts 🤣
Tesla is a notable exception but they also have a very different approach to selling cars. Manufacturers do use incentives and rebates to essentially reduce sales prices without visibly changing the MSRP, Tesla obviously doesn't do that.
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