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The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it
With fuel economy requirements increasing each year and approaching 54 mpg, the majority of new car sales need to be hybrids.The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it
Domestic manufactures didn't see this as achievable or profitable and withdrew from the market.
Fuel economy requirements killed the V-8 engine, the MPG financial penalty brought the end to the Dodge Charger and Challenger.
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The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it....except, maybe, because they just wanted the factory-space to build more trucks and crossovers.
BIL had a Fusion with Ecoboost. He lemon it. I think he got a Mercedes E class after that. Originally Posted by mmarshall
I agree, but, as I recall, that's not what you said in the past.The Ford Fusion, for eaxmple, was actually selling quite well when it was discontinued. I still don't see any credible buisness-reason why Ford dropped it....except, maybe, because they just wanted the factory-space to build more trucks and crossovers.
Niece had a Focus with the defective transmission. Traded for Corolla.
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Domestic manufactures didn't see this as achievable or profitable and withdrew from the market.
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With fuel economy requirements increasing each year and approaching 54 mpg, the majority of new car sales need to be hybrids.Domestic manufactures didn't see this as achievable or profitable and withdrew from the market.
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As I recall, both the Ford Fusion and its upmarket Lincoln MKZ twin had hybrid versions.
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That will sort itself out on its own. Eventually the prices will come down in order for the cars to sell. Originally Posted by mmarshall
Lots of talk in this thread about what vehicle sells and what doesn't....but let's face some facts. Some vehicles aren't selling because people simply can't AFFORD them. Inflation across the board in the last several years has hit a lot of people hard, and they have to use more of their income just to pay the monthly bills, leaving less of the disposable-income for big-ticket items like a new vehicle.
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Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down. Originally Posted by MattO2786
That will sort itself out on its own. Eventually the prices will come down in order for the cars to sell.
Bringing back sedans isn’t the answer lol
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Occasionally, it does happen, like it did in 2024 when Buick dropped the list price on the Encore GX..but it was only a couple of hundred dollars, and, to compensate, the standard temporary spare tire gave way to the ubiquitous tire-inflation kit....with the temporary spare now an option. Occasionally, you also see some minor dips in the MSRP, but, I agree, they are usually not substantial.Originally Posted by SW17LS
Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down.
There was, however, at least one notable exception I can think of. You are probably not old enough to remember this, but when Ford downsized the Thunderbird in 1977, there was a corresponding $2000 price-drop, in 1977 dollars....which was really significant for that era.
^^^1976 Thunderbird
^^^^1977 Thunderbird
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Bringing back sedans isn’t the answer lol
It may or may not be. Predicting the future can often be quite difficult, and consumer tastes sometimes change. Right now, crossovers are the rage, but it is no guarantee that that will last.Bringing back sedans isn’t the answer lol
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That tire inflation kit was recalled for a defect was it not? Originally Posted by mmarshall
Occasionally, it does happen, like it did in 2024 when Buick dropped the list price on the Encore GX..but it was only a couple of hundred dollars, and, to compensate, the standard temporary spare tire gave way to the ubiquitous tire-inflation kit....with the temporary spare now an option. Occasionally, you also see some minor dips in the MSRP, but, I agree, they are usually not substantialt.
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It may or may not be. Predicting the future can often be quite difficult, and consumer tastes sometimes change. Right now, crossovers are the rage, but it is no guarantee that that will las
mIt may or may not be. Predicting the future can often be quite difficult, and consumer tastes sometimes change. Right now, crossovers are the rage, but it is no guarantee that that will las
There are still over a million + sedans sold in the USA every year. Very large segement still. Unfortunately the American brands have lost that segment
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guess you forgot about tesla… #massivepricecuts 🤣Originally Posted by SW17LS
Let’s put it this way, in the 35 years I have been a car enthusiast and have watched car prices closely, I can’t remember MSRP prices ever coming down.
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That tire inflation kit was recalled for a defect was it not?
No. The recall on the 2020-2021 models was for the temporary spare...to exchange a plastic jack for a metal one. I'm a GM fan, but I agree.....there wasn't much excuse for that LOL.
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There are still over a million + sedans sold in the USA every year. Very large segement still. Unfortunately the American brands have lost that segment
As I recall, the Ford Fusion sold pretty well when it was axed. I think that, for whatever reason, the Ford marketers just didn't want to sell it any more, either because it was not profitable enough for them, or they needed the factory space for more trucks and crossovers.There are still over a million + sedans sold in the USA every year. Very large segement still. Unfortunately the American brands have lost that segment
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Tesla is a notable exception but they also have a very different approach to selling cars. Manufacturers do use incentives and rebates to essentially reduce sales prices without visibly changing the MSRP, Tesla obviously doesn't do that.Originally Posted by bitkahuna
guess you forgot about tesla… #massivepricecuts 🤣









