most satisfying vs most reliable (2024)
Lexus Test Driver
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If Toyota/Lexus had just kept the 3.5L and "properly" Turbocharged it, or maybe downsize it to a 3.0L TT hybrid, it would be fine, even performance wise. But a 2.5L just doesn't cut it for a full size SUV. But than again, most Lexus owners probably don't care as much about performance. I can tell you though from experience, BMW drivers don't like being beaten at the light. I've done a few light to light with X owners in my Polestar 😂
And yeah, some of us BMW guys bully back
. I had some fun with a first gen Model 3 the other night on my way to pick up a pizza.
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The 2GR is a 20 year old design, probably not engineered with FI in mind. A ground up engine designed for boost is the way to go. Unfortunately they still bungled that with the 3.4.
And yeah, some of us BMW guys bully back. I had some fun with a first gen Model 3 the other night on my way to pick up a pizza.
And yeah, some of us BMW guys bully back
. I had some fun with a first gen Model 3 the other night on my way to pick up a pizza.
. Respect to BMW!
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On the test drive of the GH max it just didn’t feel “right” and we ultimately decided to stick with our slower LX 570. I think the hybrid battery is supposed to bridge the gap in the turbo lag
I didn’t test drive the X7 at all. My wife drove it and it felt smooth from the passenger seat I didn’t need to drive it!!
Same here. My eyes are starting to open👀 Let the fun begin!!
I didn’t test drive the X7 at all. My wife drove it and it felt smooth from the passenger seat I didn’t need to drive it!!Same here. My eyes are starting to open👀 Let the fun begin!!
Lexus Test Driver
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Correct, bad grammar skills. I was only trying to say that all the cars were more enjoyable than my Lexus’ but the only car less reliable has been my Tesla.
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Great garages.
Ours is small and needs a junk removal on top of it.
Though the LS430 is sitting on a chewed up tire (it happened as I was leaving my neighborhood) and I won't drive the MB until the salt washes off the roads so I haven't even been in there lol.
Ours is small and needs a junk removal on top of it.
Though the LS430 is sitting on a chewed up tire (it happened as I was leaving my neighborhood) and I won't drive the MB until the salt washes off the roads so I haven't even been in there lol.
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But, I just let it hang, just to annoy everyone. Haha
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The 2GR is a 20 year old design, probably not engineered with FI in mind. A ground up engine designed for boost is the way to go. Unfortunately they still bungled that with the 3.4.
And yeah, some of us BMW guys bully back. I had some fun with a first gen Model 3 the other night on my way to pick up a pizza.
And yeah, some of us BMW guys bully back
. I had some fun with a first gen Model 3 the other night on my way to pick up a pizza.
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From: Las Vegas
It was a huge difference, and the turbo is a lot louder now. It's a hell of a lot of fun to drive. It's never outside the powerband. If I had to guess, i'm somewhere around 420-430/HP and 450-460 lb/ft. Factory it's rated for 335/332, but BMW is known for sandbagging, so it's probably around 350-360 stock.
If I wanted to delete the cat and run Stage 2 and some ethanol, it could get even more ridiculous.
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Probably around 60-70 HP and 80+ lb/ft
It was a huge difference, and the turbo is a lot louder now. It's a hell of a lot of fun to drive. It's never outside the powerband. If I had to guess, i'm somewhere around 420-430/HP and 450-460 lb/ft. Factory it's rated for 335/332, but BMW is known for sandbagging, so it's probably around 350-360 stock.
If I wanted to delete the cat and run Stage 2 and some ethanol, it could get even more ridiculous.
It was a huge difference, and the turbo is a lot louder now. It's a hell of a lot of fun to drive. It's never outside the powerband. If I had to guess, i'm somewhere around 420-430/HP and 450-460 lb/ft. Factory it's rated for 335/332, but BMW is known for sandbagging, so it's probably around 350-360 stock.
If I wanted to delete the cat and run Stage 2 and some ethanol, it could get even more ridiculous.