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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don't agree, I think this is a great looking car:



I agree. I think they are great looking. I have a neighbor who has a white one. Not necessarily the best color for the Panamera IMO but the car itself looks very good. He has white wheels on it though which don't do it any favors.
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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
those are definitely good pics of it, yea i really don't have many complaints from that lol... but from most angles it's still this big bloated frankenstein 911 creation
You can find a bad angle for any car in a picture. In person I think they look great...I see a lot of them
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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The Panamera is mid-size.
The Panamera is huge. Clearly in the E segment large luxury class.

Mid size is the IS, 3 Series, G70 etc.
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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LH1
The Panamera is huge. Clearly in the E segment large luxury class.

Mid size is the IS, 3 Series, G70 etc.
Eh.....no it's not that big in person. I agree it's midsize these days, the IS/3 segment are small cars
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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 10:18 PM
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Panamera is a large/full size luxury sedan. I've always thought they looked huge in person.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 02:16 AM
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The Panamera is actually shorter than the new 5 Series, it's still very much a midsize sedan. Its main rival from Mercedes is not the S-Class but the AMG GT 4 Door which is based on an E-Class.

European classifications are different from the US but the Panamera is right in line with the E, 5, and A6 dimensionally.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
It's way better than the 1st then for sure, but it doesn't do it for me in person.
They look fine but they don't stay true to the concept hence why some angles look weird.
Nothing beats this in terms of front-end design and overall proportions




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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 01:34 PM
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Panamera is E Class/ 5 Series size, 10 inches shorter than an S class and 12 inches shorter than a 7 Series.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Panamera is E Class/ 5 Series size, 10 inches shorter than an S class and 12 inches shorter than a 7 Series.
True. But S Class comes in short wheel base outside of the US. panamera is almost the same size as the short wheelbase S class

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Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
True. But S Class comes in short wheel base outside of the US. panamera is almost the same size as the short wheelbase S class
S-Class SWB is 5 inches longer and its wheelbase is almost 7 inches longer. It's not even close.

The only S-Class that's shorter than the Panamera is the coupe from the last generation, and only by exactly 1 inch.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
S-Class SWB is 5 inches longer and its wheelbase is almost 7 inches longer. It's not even close.

The only S-Class that's shorter than the Panamera is the coupe from the last generation, and only by exactly 1 inch.
Yeah thats not even close, thanks for fact checking. Too bad we have to constantly do that around here.

I agree that the Panamera isn't that great looking of a car. The second gen is much improved, but it does nothing for me. The first gen is just tragic. Not sure if they had the same designer, but I see alot of similarities between the 996 911, the first Cayenne, and the first Panamera. Lots of swoopy lines and bad proportions.
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To me the pana looks like a cayenne that was lowered too far, and it's just too small for a "serious" car.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
I say we use the example of cars that are actually front mid engined otherwise EVERY RWD car is mid engined. The accepted standard is shock towers vs crank pulley positions btw....
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Okay then lets view it from the angle of what is commonly associated as mid engine, that being rear/mid and where those engines are located then.

Lets start with the most common options like the C8
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I drove a 2024 with active suspension. Its nothing like an S Class, much firner, louder and sportier. As it should be,]

If thats "the standard" that should be documented and easy for you to show us.

I actually think the latest ones are beautiful.
This video defines front mid-engine as the engine located behind the front axle.
Jump to 00:03'41".
AFAIK, there simply is no international agreed standard definition for front mid-engine, hence we must not be so petty and small minded with little details.


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Originally Posted by peteharvey
This video defines front mid-engine as the engine located behind the front axle.
Jump to 00:03'41".
AFAIK, there simply is no international agreed standard definition for front mid-engine, hence we must not be so petty and small minded with little details.
There is no agreed upon standard that was my point. Thats why I challenged Striker to please provide us with the standard he is using to say Lexus and reviewers are wrong (it doesn't exist)

The point is that the engine is placed farther back for handling and the result is a tighter cabin.
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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I've driven the Panamera, it is nowhere near as nice riding as an S Class.
when did you drive one, and 'nice' depends on what you want.

the panamera is a sporty luxury sedan. the non-amg s-classes are not.

the most capable panamera setups are astonishingly good with wide ranging abilities, but likely still not near as cushy on bad roads as an s-class.
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