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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
, several legit publications pushed the diesel over the 6.2 whether you read them or not, or care or not.
Who cares? Everybody is entitled to an opinion. They say the I6 is plenty in the S Class too and I totally disagree, but it doesn’t make me mad they made that suggestion. There are people out there who own them that think the 6 cyl is fine too.

There is no conspiracy lol, the government doesn’t tell Car & Driver what to say.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:17 AM
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Who cares? Everybody is entitled to an opinion. They say the I6 is plenty in the S Class too and I totally disagree, but it doesn’t make me mad they made that suggestion. There are people out there who own them that think the 6 cyl is fine too.

There is no conspiracy lol, the government doesn’t tell Car & Driver what to say.
Lol I'm not mad and I'm not suggesting any conspiracies.

But the green push from the mags is there and has been. You don't think they're (or can be) bought and paid for because you are on that side of the spectrum, you don't care that V8s are gone and are eager to go full EV. Which is cool, but the push was nauseating for those who aren't really into EVs. They've finally quit with it all, I no longer see 75 blogs a day on my FB about EVs anymore.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:17 AM
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I like diesels

I was considering a diesel A6 before getting the GS back in 15, but I started tracking which gas stations near me had diesel and it was only about 50%. That plus me liking the interior of the GS better sealed the deal
The 335d tempted me big time. I think around 2012-2013 I was seriously considering one.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:19 AM
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I like diesels too, don't get me wrong. But not in an Escalade. In some killer 2500, yes please!!!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:29 AM
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I like diesels too, don't get me wrong. But not in an Escalade. In some killer 2500, yes please!!!!!
Me too, I like diesels. A diesel Escalade was unnecessary. Until you mentioned it yesterday, I didn't know it existed.

The 6.2 and SC 6.2 is more than enough.
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Me too, I like diesels. A diesel Escalade was unnecessary. Until you mentioned it yesterday, I didn't know it existed.

The 6.2 and SC 6.2 is more than enough.
If people are buying these for mall crawlers then they aren't pulling heavy stuff.

I don't know but could explain why the diesel option doesn't sell.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Lol I'm not mad and I'm not suggesting any conspiracies.

But the green push from the mags is there and has been. You don't think they're (or can be) bought and paid for because you are on that side of the spectrum, you don't care that V8s are gone and are eager to go full EV. Which is cool, but the push was nauseating for those who aren't really into EVs. They've finally quit with it all, I no longer see 75 blogs a day on my FB about EVs anymore.
You said you don’t suggest any conspiracies and then suggest conspiracies lol.

What spectrum? There is no spectrum. I can’t do anything about what’s happening so it doesn’t trouble me. I don’t let things that I can’t control trouble me. I like V8s and I also like EVs, so it will all be fine. I’ve had great V8s and I will have great EVs.
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I don't know but could explain why the diesel option doesn't sell.
Could be. Americans just don't like diesels in light passenger vehicles, CUV's or SUV's.

Obviously diesel in pickups, 18 wheelers and CAT's is different.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 09:12 AM
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The 335d tempted me big time. I think around 2012-2013 I was seriously considering one.
It is sooo good. 13 years in and even having "replaced" it with an M3, there was no way I could get rid of it. Such an effortless drive, either around town or on the highway.

I am not an SUV person, much less a large BOF SUV person, but If I were buying an Escalade my order of engine choice would be LT4, Duramax, LS3. Not a bad option in the bunch by any means, but low rpm torque=driveability for me. And since Diesels react extremely well to it, a simple tune on the Duramax gives you >550lbft just off idle.
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It’s a uniquely American thing, the anti diesel. Look at all the diesels elsewhere in the world.
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It is sooo good. 13 years in and even having "replaced" it with an M3, there was no way I could get rid of it. Such an effortless drive, either around town or on the highway.

I am not an SUV person, much less a large BOF SUV person, but If I were buying an Escalade my order of engine choice would be LT4, Duramax, LS3. Not a bad option in the bunch by any means, but low rpm torque=driveability for me. And since Diesels react extremely well to it, a simple tune on the Duramax gives you >550lbft just off idle.
Without googling it I think the 335d had 425 lb/ft right off idle. I never heard about any reliability issues either. Home run engine by BMW.
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It’s a uniquely American thing, the anti diesel. Look at all the diesels elsewhere in the world.
I think the disastrously bad diesels of the 80's scared Americans off forever.
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Originally Posted by LH1
I think the disastrously bad diesels of the 80's scared Americans off forever.
I think that had a lot to do with it
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Originally Posted by LH1
I think the disastrously bad diesels of the 80's scared Americans off forever.
They were really bad

I had the Chevy 6.2 diesel in my pickup.
It was loosing compression just after 100k.

Needed starting fluid on every cold start to get it running.

Had it yanked and a 350 V8 installed.
Now if it was a proper diesel like a Cummins, that would be a different story.
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Originally Posted by Margate330
They were really bad

I had the Chevy 6.2 diesel in my pickup.
It was loosing compression just after 100k.
There was a non turbo diesel pickup truck in the 80's. Can't remember if it was GM or Ford. It was widely regarded as one of the worst engines ever.


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