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Old May 14, 2024 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AWD4Mo
Not being nasty here, but you made quite the pun....."never looked back".....except to look back at the drivers faces in the rear view mirror! LOL.
Didn't mean to offend you....more power to you for enjoying your EV.....same way I enjoy my gasoline engine sounds.
I think you may have misunderstood me. Not offended one bit, and I apologize if that's how you took it, I was just being overly expressive. I'm glad you enjoy your car and it's sounds, people should drive what they enjoy
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Old May 14, 2024 | 09:12 AM
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To me the Ioniq 5 N is a masterpiece. It's only downside... dealerships
a short term annoyance for long term joy.
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Old May 14, 2024 | 10:08 AM
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General question - other than the exterior and interior design, is there any functional difference between the regular Ionic 5 and it's corporate cousin - the Kia EV6 GT? I prefer the overall exterior design of the Kia and would consider getting one to replace my S in the future. Ofcourse it would have to be the GT version (is that the equivalent of the Hyundai N model?)
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Old May 14, 2024 | 10:12 AM
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General question - other than the exterior and interior design, is there any functional difference between the regular Ionic 5 and it's corporate cousin - the Kia EV6 GT? I prefer the overall exterior design of the Kia and would consider getting one to replace my S in the future. Ofcourse it would have to be the GT version (is that the equivalent of the Hyundai N model?)
They both share the same underlying platform, The E-GMP (Electric-Global Modular Platform)
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Old May 14, 2024 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I think you may have misunderstood me. Not offended one bit, and I apologize if that's how you took it, I was just being overly expressive. I'm glad you enjoy your car and it's sounds, people should drive what they enjoy
No worries at all.
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Originally Posted by Hameed
Of course it would have to be the GT version (is that the equivalent of the Hyundai N model?)
i don't think so since the ioniq 5 n just came out filled with new stuff.

good comparison

https://www.saffordbrownhyundaimanas...e-ev-showdown/
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Old May 14, 2024 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD4Mo
Sports cars without engine noise? Tell me it ain't so! Why, half the enjoyment would be taken away!
Unless you're talking about hypercars, most if not all ICE performance vehicles today have fake pumped-in engine noise. Turbocharged motors and hybrids aren't exactly the most exciting things to listen to.

I don't know where this idea comes from that ICE vehicles have some kind of "soul" when these big naturally aspirated V8's and V12's that people keep dreaming about were already at death's door a decade ago well before EV's became mainstream.

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Old May 14, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i don't think so since the ioniq 5 n just came out filled with new stuff.

good comparison

https://www.saffordbrownhyundaimanas...e-ev-showdown/
THe Kia is quite the enthusiast car! 👍👍
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Old May 14, 2024 | 07:19 PM
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THe Kia is quite the enthusiast car! 👍👍
it is, but the ioniq 5 N is on another level.

i expect kia will do their version at some point.
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Unless you're talking about hypercars, most if not all ICE performance vehicles today have fake pumped-in engine noise. Turbocharged motors and hybrids aren't exactly the most exciting things to listen to.

I don't know where this idea comes from that ICE vehicles have some kind of "soul" when these big naturally aspirated V8's and V12's that people keep dreaming about were already at death's door a decade ago well before EV's became mainstream.
They were at deaths door because of government policy, not because people didn't like them or want them. The rich and powerful still have access to those big engines, and still buy them. Those big engine dreams only died for the peons.
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Originally Posted by Bob04
They were at deaths door because of government policy, not because people didn't like them or want them. The rich and powerful still have access to those big engines, and still buy them. Those big engine dreams only died for the peons.
You should do a Mad Max and head out into the desert with the last V8 🤣



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They were at deaths door because of government policy, not because people didn't like them or want them. The rich and powerful still have access to those big engines, and still buy them. Those big engine dreams only died for the peons.
Government policy never decided that people wanted soccer mom crossovers with tiny 4-cylinder engines, people decided that.
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Old May 15, 2024 | 02:33 PM
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Government policy never decided that people wanted soccer mom crossovers with tiny 4-cylinder engines, people decided that.
I never claimed that. There always has been and always will be a market for economy transportation. The engines being discussed were V8s and V12s, and the government's policies with corporate emission standards and associated fines absolutely do limit access to those type of vehicles. The CEO of Dodge outright stated this. LS customers certainly didn't choose a V6tt LS either, and sales show it.
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Originally Posted by Bob04
I never claimed that. There always has been and always will be a market for economy transportation. The engines being discussed were V8s and V12s, and the government's policies with corporate emission standards and associated fines absolutely do limit access to those type of vehicles. The CEO of Dodge outright stated this. LS customers certainly didn't choose a V6tt LS either, and sales show it.
Maybe things are different in other parts of the country, but here in California, most wealthy people are not buying vehicles with big engines. I can count on my fingers daily the number of new (between 2020 and 2024) V8's and even V6's. In fact most of the bigger engine cars I see are driven by the poor/Blue collar. You'll find more V8's in East Oakland than in Palo Alto, where the average house is worth well over $2M. My brother in Law lives in the Fremont hills where the starting price of a house is $2.7M and in his entire neighborhood there is one Mustang GT owned by his neighbors son, probably bought by dad. This is a trend I've been seeing since the mid-2000's
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Maybe things are different in other parts of the country, but here in California, most wealthy people are not buying vehicles with big engines. I can count on my fingers daily the number of new (between 2020 and 2024) V8's and even V6's. In fact most of the bigger engine cars I see are driven by the poor/Blue collar. You'll find more V8's in East Oakland than in Palo Alto, where the average house is worth well over $2M. My brother in Law lives in the Fremont hills where the starting price of a house is $2.7M and in his entire neighborhood there is one Mustang GT owned by his neighbors son, probably bought by dad. This is a trend I've been seeing since the mid-2000's
So all the rich people in Cali are driving 4 cylinders? Give me a break. lol
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