Your Car is Spying on You
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But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
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In that case, take those curtains off your windows, the locks off your doors, and post up your address - I want to come by and watch you.
But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
But seriously, if you feel the benefits outweigh the costs that's your choice to make. But don't pretend that we don't have a choice.
You do have choice, the choice is to stop using this technology.
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Emilio Mordini, philosopher and psychoanalyst, argued that the "nothing to hide" argument is inherently paradoxical. People do not need to have "something to hide" in order to hide "something". What is hidden is not necessarily relevant, claims Mordini. Instead, he argues an intimate area which can be both hidden and access-restricted is necessary since, psychologically speaking, we become individuals through the discovery that we could hide something to others.
Bruce Schneier, a computer security expert and cryptographer, expressed opposition, citing a statement widely attributed to Cardinal Richelieu,[11] "Give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I'll find enough to hang him,"
Bruce Schneier, a computer security expert and cryptographer, expressed opposition, citing a statement widely attributed to Cardinal Richelieu,[11] "Give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I'll find enough to hang him,"
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You are in no position to tell me (or anyone else on this forum) that they are not being honest about their personal lives.
Have a nice evening.
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The point is, how far do you want to take it? I am not willing to give up using modern technologies like connected cars and smartphones, so if that means people will figure out demographically how often I drive to the CVS, then so be it.
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You just admitted it is valuable and necessary to "hide" things from others.
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If the government or any company wanted to track you, they can do it pretty easily. As long as you're not doing something horrific, like a plot to harm somebody, who cares if they know where you are and what you're doing? They don't care one iota.
I've been reading for years about Google's "tracking" and how it's harmful, the invasion of privacy. It's 2024 and I'm still waiting for a good explanation on why I should be concerned.
I've been reading for years about Google's "tracking" and how it's harmful, the invasion of privacy. It's 2024 and I'm still waiting for a good explanation on why I should be concerned.
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I use Google services a lot, and I'm generally fine with having anonymous data collected to use for marketing purposes, but i also think people should be able to decide what data is collected. Part of that is deciding what services to use.
I don't like people who think we have an obligation to be transparent about our lives with everybody. I'm not a criminal or crook just because I'm not willing to open up my entire life to the government or any other interested party.
I don't like people who think we have an obligation to be transparent about our lives with everybody. I'm not a criminal or crook just because I'm not willing to open up my entire life to the government or any other interested party.
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I admitted nothing of the kind. I can't speak for others, but my point is that I have nothing to hide in my personal life. If a GPS tracker in my vehicle records every place I drive, I couldn't care less. What will they find?....mostly church, grocery stores, shopping malls, medical appointments, indoor swimming pools at rec centers, and auto dealerships (to look at and evaluate vehicles and sometimes help others shop).
I just don’t really care to be quite honest.
Last edited by mmarshall; Apr 18, 2024 at 03:28 PM.
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I admitted nothing of the kind. I can't speak for others, but my point is that I have nothing to hide in my personal life. If a GPS tracker in my vehicle records every place I drive, I couldn't care less. What will they find?....mostly church, grocery stores, shopping malls, medical appointments, indoor swimming pools at rec centers, and auto dealerships (to look at and evaluate vehicles and sometimes help others shop).
There...Steve hit the nail on the head.
There...Steve hit the nail on the head.
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You're completely discounting it because you go out of your way to disagree with everything I say. That is extremism.
People that say who cares about privacy because they have nothing to hide in fact hide many things because it is perfectly normal to do so. Personal "my personal life" means belonging to or individual. Giving up info to a company means it doesn't belong to you anymore.
People that say who cares about privacy because they have nothing to hide in fact hide many things because it is perfectly normal to do so. Personal "my personal life" means belonging to or individual. Giving up info to a company means it doesn't belong to you anymore.
Last edited by LeX2K; Apr 18, 2024 at 04:26 PM.