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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Hybrids aren't a long term solution in that they don't free us from using oil, thats the point. Ultimately the future is going to be oil free, that future is just a long way off.

The thing about PHEVs are that they just aren't as impressive to drive as an EV. I LOVE the PHEV powertrain in the Pacifica, but I am really on the fence about say a PHEV S580e...in a car like that I want a powertrain that really wows me, and to me thats either the V8 or its a full EV.
You think EVs free us from oil? Oil is used in literally everything, we can't be free of it unless we return to 1890s material tech
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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You think EVs free us from oil? Oil is used in literally everything, we can't be free of it unless we return to 1890s material tech
It will free us from petroleum for combustion/transportation and dramatically reduce our consumption of it
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:45 PM
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It will free us from petroleum for combustion/transportation and dramatically reduce our consumption of it
No it won't. It will simply be redirected elsewhere and per year consumption will only ever increase unless we are willing to go backwards with standard of living.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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No it won't. It will simply be redirected elsewhere and per year consumption will only ever increase unless we are willing to go backwards with standard of living.
Thats just absurd. Far and away the main usage of petroleum is for gasoline, 2/3rds of it is used for gasoline as a fact. Reducing or eliminating the use of petroleum to power vehicles would in fact cut the use of petroleum by 2/3rds. Because...math.
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 08:32 PM
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My mother recently bought a 2024 NX350h AWD, replacing her 2008 RX350 AWD. The mpg, range and familiarity with Lexus were some selling points. It operates smoothly and engine drone is suppressed compared to older systems from my experience. One of the coolest features has to be the digital mirror. Not only does it eliminate the rear pillars, headrests etc from view, but programming homelink was neat. Holding the remote to the mirror as normal but once it caught the signal a digital menu appears on the screen and you just follow the instructions with the button on the mirror and done. Didn't have to climb on a ladder to press the training button. Admittedly I've been a little out of the car game since changing careers so it was a new feature to me
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 09:03 PM
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I can't believe anyone thinks buying a BEV will solve the climate crisis. It's but a drop in the ocean. Not buying an EV is better if you ride your bike or use mass transit.
I don’t think anybody thinks that
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 10:02 PM
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Nobody buys a BEV to save the environment. I own 3 (if you count my daughters Bolt which we technically loaned her the down payment, four) and I'm no environmentalist, although I do have a vegetable garden. If you want to know why we've switched to BEV, come visit us in EV chat. Climate is already F'ed
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Old Dec 22, 2023 | 10:50 PM
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It won’t be long before the title of this thread changes from BOOMing to BOMBing. 🤣🤣🤣
Hybrids are the “netbooks” of the automotive world. Tesla is the apple iPad that will solidify their demise.
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ok folks, let's stay out of 'climate change' debate, and whether ev's are 'better' or not is not relevant.

the point is, hybrid sales are booming, but again, what i don't get is whether car companies do well with them from a profitability standpoint... packing an electric drivetrain AND an ice drivetrain AND the gearing/control to switch between them can't be cheap. i don't hang out at dealers checking inventory but my impression is for vehicles available in non-hybrid and hybrid configs the latter is often in short (or no) supply.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Nobody buys a BEV to save the environment. I own 3 (if you count my daughters Bolt which we technically loaned her the down payment, four)
thought you have 4 (polestar, ioniq, tesla, bolt)

edit: my bad you said 4 with bolt

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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thought you have 4 (polestar, ioniq, tesla, bolt)
You need to read his whole statement.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
You think EVs free us from oil? Oil is used in literally everything, we can't be free of it unless we return to 1890s material tech
if the Tesla represents the direction of “1890’s tech”, then I say, BRING IT ON!!!! The sooner the better.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tdes395
if the Tesla represents the direction of “1890’s tech”, then I say, BRING IT ON!!!! The sooner the better.
Haha, don't worry it about brother. People have always been scared of advancements in tech lol. You should Google "Luddites"
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thought you have 4 (polestar, ioniq, tesla, bolt)
Haha Mike beat me
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Haha Mike beat me
DOH! Sorry
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