The issue with Hyundai is they can’t choose a styling direction, and it makes their cars look old really quick.

 

That and another thing is who is picking these names???!

Carnival... lol
Hyundai and Kia, please stop the clowning.

 

The van was always called the Carnival in Korea and the Sedona here. Sedona is a much better name.

No joke the main reason why my wife did not want a Carnival is the name. We would probably have one if it was still called the Sedona.

 

That and they just copy everyone else

 

I can't agree with that at all. Modern Hyundais/Kias don't look derived from anything else on the road IMO.

 

The vertical headlights and taillights are a lot like most recent Cadillacs. In fact, most of the "improvements" to the new Carnival remind me of a previous Escalade.

 

What it looks like to me is the EV9.

 

I agree in terms of overall design. Some small design details are similar enough to other brands to make people call it a copy. Example is the Sante Fe's steering wheel:

 

If I recall correctly, some recent Pacificas had a white-rim wheel like that.


Probably needs a lot of cleaning....oil and dirt from one's hands will stain it up very quickly.

 

Mine did, but it’s the overall design he’s talking about

 

They just steal a bunch of elements from various brands and smash them together. That's exactly what I mean by copying other brands

 

I just don't see that they are doing that. Every design element anybody can put into a car has been used by somebody at some point before. I don't see that done by Hyundai any more than its being done by anybody else. I think you notice it more with Hyundai because you dislike them so much.

 

That's a good looking van! I agree with the comment about the headlights looking like the prior gen Escalade, it's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the pics as well. It reminds me a bit of the current Expedition from the side with the roof line angles, etc. I think it looks really sharp.

 

Oh I like the looks, I just hate the actual car part of them. Drivelines and suspensions etc are a joke and that hasn't changed

The looks are 100% stolen from other cars, headlight, body lines, taillights, wheels, door cards etc etc are all from cars that are best in class or famous/desirable. That's fine if that what they do but they should admit it.

I actually think this looks good for a van, very loud style etc but certainly better than something like the older ones. For me though if I pick a van I would pick a town and country

 

C'mon, you hate Hyundais.

We'll have to agree to disagree, I just don't see that any more than I see it with other manufacturers. Chrysler hasn't made the Town and Country for 7 years.

What makes the suspension "a joke"? Its a macpherson strut suspension just like in everything else FWD lol. This is not a premium/luxury car, nor is anything they make that isn't a Genesis.