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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't know what the wiring codes are in Florida, but here you have to run it through pipes. That means the cost of the piping, bending and cutting an sometimes putting them through walls or roofs and securing them
I promise you friend, your job is a lot harder than installing an outlet. 😁

You're a network specialist and we're just talking about running an outlet. Lol

I'm not saying I'd recommend someone to do it for a first attempt tho.

Stabbing up conduit with clips and a hammer drill to a concrete wall is super easy.

I can put a wire anywhere...

Thru walls increases the risk tho.
That's where you separate the pro's from the noobs cuz there may be stuff in the wall that can get hit when making a hole- such as other electrical wires or plumbing. Lol




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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 08:37 PM
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Don't think conduit is required here if it is hardly anyone does it. I did it just for peace of mind any fire event is easily contained vs. burning down your garage or worse.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 08:48 PM
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If it’s within a wall, it’s going to have to be in a conduit anywhere. If it’s out and visible that’s a different story potentially.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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Don't think conduit is required here if it is hardly anyone does it. I did it just for peace of mind any fire event is easily contained vs. burning down your garage or worse.
A licensed electrician is going to use conduit. Also conduit makes things cleaner, protects the wires from rodents and weather. Unless he runs the wires himself, which I doubt it, conduit most likely be used
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
A licensed electrician is going to use conduit. Also conduit makes things cleaner, protects the wires from rodents and weather. Unless he runs the wires himself, which I doubt it, conduit most likely be used
My search skills failed I couldn't find what is code here. I know I've seen a bunch of people with 240 volt service in the garage there is no conduit except where it runs underground of course, in this case PVC.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
My search skills failed I couldn't find what is code here. I know I've seen a bunch of people with 240 volt service in the garage there is no conduit except where it runs underground of course, in this case PVC.
In my case, the electrician ran a flexible grey conduit from the main panel to the sub panel he installed, than metal piping to the box where the charger is hardwired. More flexible conduit from the box to the charger.

He did something similar running the circuit from the main panel to the garage for my brother in law. It gives a clean look, protects the wires from the weather and critters
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 09:26 PM
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That's the correct way.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
In my case, the electrician ran a flexible grey conduit from the main panel to the sub panel he installed, than metal piping to the box where the charger is hardwired. More flexible conduit from the box to the charger.

He did something similar running the circuit from the main panel to the garage for my brother in law. It gives a clean look, protects the wires from the weather and critters
Here, they have to run rigid conduit throughout. If I was to do my own installation, I would have done it in BX and just removed it when I moved out. Since I knew I needed a service upgrade, I just bit the bullet and paid to have it done to code. Now, it can be a selling point when we decide to move.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 09:50 PM
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Here, they have to run rigid conduit throughout. If I was to do my own installation, I would have done it in BX and just removed it when I moved out. Since I knew I needed a service upgrade, I just bit the bullet and paid to have it done to code. Now, it can be a selling point when we decide to move.
I have no plans to move anytime soon. I bought my house in 2015 at a steal, and now it's more than doubled in value. Property taxes are only $11k a year, and my mortgage is a fixed 2.75 percent. The average price of a house in the Bay area now is $1.4 Million with interest rates around 8 percent. Lastly, I have 6000 sq ft to expand if I needed more space. I would be an absolute fool to sell unless I'm retiring and moving to someplace like Texas, Florida, Nevada etc. So charger stays
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 04:58 AM
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good info guys. lex2k, sure one can buy 'cheap' wire on amazon and diy, but i'll defer to the licensed and insured professional to do the job right even if it costs more.

my home is concrete block so wire won't be going in the walls and the ceiling above the panel isn't accessible, so the conduit will have to go up and along the top of the wall then around the corner, then down to the charger, etc. we measured it all, it's about 33ft total but he said 35ft to be safe. at some point i'm going to have the garage repainted, so i'll probably have the metal conduit painted too to blend in. that's my thought anyway.

will share pics when it's done.
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Almost all jurisdictions require a conduit.
And the ones that don't, you should ignore their rules and use it anyway.

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If it’s within a wall, it’s going to have to be in a conduit anywhere. If it’s out and visible that’s a different story potentially.
The town my parents live in (a suburb of Chicago) allows naked romex everywhere except designated firebreaks. So the default when building their house would have been to have one short piece of conduit for the circuits going into the garage (which would still have been romex, just run through conduit), and that's it. Probably 14" of conduit for the entire house. They paid an extra $12k if memory serves to have it done correctly, with individual wires pulled through conduit throughout.

It SHOULD be required everywhere, but unfortunately it isn't.

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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 05:32 AM
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Yeah we forget that code is a minimum
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I have no plans to move anytime soon. I bought my house in 2015 at a steal, and now it's more than doubled in value. Property taxes are only $11k a year, and my mortgage is a fixed 2.75 percent. The average price of a house in the Bay area now is $1.4 Million with interest rates around 8 percent. Lastly, I have 6000 sq ft to expand if I needed more space. I would be an absolute fool to sell unless I'm retiring and moving to someplace like Texas, Florida, Nevada etc. So charger stays
I'm planning on retiring in a couple years. My wife already has. I'll be paying cash, so I don't really care about mortgage rates. All we care about is warmer weather.
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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I'm planning on retiring in a couple years. My wife already has. I'll be paying cash, so I don't really care about mortgage rates. All we care about is warmer weather.
Warmer weather is worth whatever it costs lol
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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
I'm planning on retiring in a couple years. My wife already has. I'll be paying cash, so I don't really care about mortgage rates. All we care about is warmer weather.
I have no plans of leaving California (or it's weather), I'm 55 years old, probably won't retire until they find me dead in my office . If I do move, I'll keep the house, either rent it out or turn it over to one of my kids, pull as much equity out of it as I can and buy a house in SoCal where my brother lives (Eastvale) where it's much cheaper. Funny thing, my colleagues in our Texas office pay a lot more property tax than I do, even though their houses are way, way cheaper. In Texas you don't pay state income taxes, but they just find another way to take a piece of your flesh.

As far as Home chargers, I'll just set up a new one wherever I end up living
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