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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 06:35 AM
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The only time I don’t like it is when I want to adjust my foot on the accelerator and there are people behind me. For that brief second I let off the people behind me probably think I don’t know how to drive because I’m braking for no reason but those occasions are pretty rare.
I adjust my foot pretty often and I've been just popping the cruise control on when I need to move it. Not the smoothest, but better than the slight jerk of the readjustment
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 11:18 AM
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It’s just not at all what I’m used to and I find that when moving through traffic it catches me off guard. I’m used to giving a car a little boost of throttle and moving through traffic and I’m always surprised by the car dragging like I hit the brakes as soon as I take my foot off the throttle.
The key is to keep your foot on the pedal and just learn how much pressure to ease off of it. Removing your foot completely off the pedal, or doing it very quickly, is what creates the "dragging" feeling that you're mentioning. I liken it to learning how to drive stick and how you learn what to do on the clutch (like teaching someone how to use only the clutch and no gas pedal to get the car starting to move in 1st gear. They have to learn how slowly to bring the clutch up so the car doesn't jerk).

I'd say 90% of the time my foot remains completely on the gas pedal, just with varying degrees of pressure. I only take it off if I unexpectedly don't catch a light or someone does something stupid in front of me and I'm preparing to hit the brake.

I'm in the camp of being a huge fan of one pedal driving. It feels more intuitive to me and I just enjoy it overall.
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
The key is to keep your foot on the pedal and just learn how much pressure to ease off of it. Removing your foot completely off the pedal, or doing it very quickly, is what creates the "dragging" feeling that you're mentioning. I liken it to learning how to drive stick and how you learn what to do on the clutch (like teaching someone how to use only the clutch and no gas pedal to get the car starting to move in 1st gear. They have to learn how slowly to bring the clutch up so the car doesn't jerk).

I'd say 90% of the time my foot remains completely on the gas pedal, just with varying degrees of pressure. I only take it off if I unexpectedly don't catch a light or someone does something stupid in front of me and I'm preparing to hit the brake.

I'm in the camp of being a huge fan of one pedal driving. It feels more intuitive to me and I just enjoy it overall.
Not only that, it saves your brakes and rotors. OPD will allow you to change your brakes and rotors at 100k. At 30k, my Polestar's brakes and rotors have almost no wear. In fact, the Polestar tech told me every now and then turn off OPD for short periods to keep the rotors clean
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 11:31 AM
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Not only that, it saves your brakes and rotors. OPD will allow you to change your brakes and rotors at 100k. At 30k, my Polestar's brakes and rotors have almost no wear. In fact, the Polestar tech told me every now and then turn off OPD for short periods to keep the rotors clean
For sure. One of the odd benefits for me of driving an EV is I feel like I can drive the car with no repercussions. With our big SUV's that we own, somewhere in my head I'm thinking about gas mileage or how I must be burning through brakes in stop and go traffic with such a heavy vehicle (I know it's weird, especially since I've never truly tracked my MPG in an SUV in 15+ years). But with an EV, I can drive it hard and I'm not worried about the engine, transmission, MPG, or anything else. And I never hit the brakes.
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
The key is to keep your foot on the pedal and just learn how much pressure to ease off of it. Removing your foot completely off the pedal, or doing it very quickly, is what creates the "dragging" feeling that you're mentioning. I liken it to learning how to drive stick and how you learn what to do on the clutch (like teaching someone how to use only the clutch and no gas pedal to get the car starting to move in 1st gear. They have to learn how slowly to bring the clutch up so the car doesn't jerk).

I'd say 90% of the time my foot remains completely on the gas pedal, just with varying degrees of pressure. I only take it off if I unexpectedly don't catch a light or someone does something stupid in front of me and I'm preparing to hit the brake.

I'm in the camp of being a huge fan of one pedal driving. It feels more intuitive to me and I just enjoy it overall.
That doesn't sound appealing to me on any level lol
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That doesn't sound appealing to me on any level lol
Really? Why? You want to drive an EV the exact same way as an ICE vehicle even though the ICE has no regenerative braking? The result is going to be exactly what you don't like.. that feeling of the dragging..!

Try to drive an EV and fight the urge to touch the brake. You'll start learning how to ease your foot off the gas without fully removing it as the way you gently slow the car down. You'll get it in like 15 minutes of around town driving. I genuinely don't understand what wouldn't be appealing about it.
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 07:02 PM
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I would probably get used to it, but yeah what I want is a car that drives like an ICE car that’s electric…
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It’s like riding a jet ski. Soon as your lift you’re slowing to a stop. If I remember correctly you can sit at the red light without a foot on the brake and the car will not move.

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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I would probably get used to it, but yeah what I want is a car that drives like an ICE car that’s electric…
How did the i7 feel in that regard? Does it feel more like an ICE car? For EV's, I've only driven Tesla, the Mach-E, and Rivian R1S. All of them felt relatively similar in this regard of one pedal driving. Since owning my Model Y, any time that I have rented a Tesla it has been in "creep" mode and I really dislike it (but it's locked down and can't be changed).
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:23 AM
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I7 without regen braking on feels totally normal
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
It’s like riding a jet ski. Soon as your lift you’re slowing to a stop. If I remember correctly you can sit at the red light without a foot on the brake and the car will not move.
To be fair I can do that too lol
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:28 AM
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you absolutely get used to 1 pedal driving and i'd guess 99% of drivers would love it.

so for reasons i've explained the 1 pedal driving mode (i-pedal) on hyundai ev's isn't theoretically as efficient on awd models because all 4 wheels (both motors) are driven all the time, although i'd bet the impact is tiny, and also can't be left on all the time.
so my car is left in the next level down, level 3. this slows down pretty quickly also if at speed and you take your foot off the pedal, but typically i don't want to slow that fast anyway, and just back off a bit to slow more gently.
the difference in level 3 vs. i-pedal is level 3 as the car gets very slow (say 5mph) won't come to a complete stop, whereas i-pedal will. this is no biggie in most driving, as i don't mind using the brake pedal for that last 10 feet of driving (first world problem, lol), or i can hold the left paddle to stop the car.

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One of the neat things about the braking on my Lightning is that it has blended brakes and it always uses regen as the primary means of braking in all modes, seamlessly switching to the mechanical brakes only in the event the braking required exceeds that which can be delivered via regen. It will give you a braking score, and if you get 100% (and you can on most stops other than emergency braking) you likely are stopping using only regen. The transition between the two is pretty much imperceptible. 1PD does behave slightly differently depending upon the driving mode. More often than not I don't use 1 pedal driving because there's little to no efficiency gains because it uses regen anyway.
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
To be fair I can do that too lol
Can you stop without touching the brake at all? The times I’ve rented a Model 3 I want to say that’s what I remember.
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't think he's driven a Tesla lately, although I could be wrong.
yeah he'd rather drive a 1995 saab or an obscure suv off road.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
It’s just not at all what I’m used to and I find that when moving through traffic it catches me off guard. I’m used to giving a car a little boost of throttle and moving through traffic and I’m always surprised by the car dragging like I hit the brakes as soon as I take my foot off the throttle.
yes it takes a little bit to adjust to just backing off the throttle gently, vs just removing your foot. but once you get it, wow. the brake pedal then becomes only needed for unexpected stops (like someone pulling out right in front of you).
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