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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 07:15 AM
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But the point is it's not impossible to achieve. It's really no different to how long will the gas in your tank will take you. The answer, in both cases, is it depends.
I have to agree, it's definitely possible to achieve the stated range even though I very rarely do as I have a heavy foot.

I have 'tested" this on multiple occasions with my Model S over the years just for fun (as it's nearly impossible to drive like that on a normal basis).

Meaning, driving on the highway at 65 mph, not accelerating hard etc. and I've been able to achieve the stated range easily.

However it's not realistic to drive at 65 mph as everyone is riding your ***.
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Funny I just watched the same video this morning when it popped on YouTube as I was watching random stuff and saw this post. This is to me the best solar solution out there and to me it’s not even close. I don’t like the look of solar panels on my roof and the fact that it doesn’t look integrated at all. The Tesla shingles look amazing and seem so much further ahead compared to traditional panels it’s not even close.
What has stopped wider adoption is partially about Tesla being production contained but a far larger problem is trying to fit them to the variety of homes/roofs there are near limitless variations. And finding installers that can do the work. Tesla learned a hard lesson with their solar setups, making the hardware is in a sense easier than putting them on people's roofs.
Marques is such a good reviewer and I loved how he explained/broke everything down so someone dumb like me could understand.
He's very chill easy to listen to. The guy makes huge $$$$ and deserved IMO.
At $92,000 after the tax credits, with one EV the payback period is over 20 years and with two EVs it’s about 17 years.
For Marques I believe he said 10 year payback, which is actually great. Typical roof is 25+ years and you get nothing out of it in that time. But he gets a good amount of sunshine (I do as well) for many people they will generate half the energy he does.

I don't have power blackouts here but in the N.E. United States it is common power goes out all the time makes a setup like that even more attractive.

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Originally Posted by patgilm
Funny I just watched the same video this morning when it popped on YouTube as I was watching random stuff and saw this post. This is to me the best solar solution out there and to me it’s not even close. I don’t like the look of solar panels on my roof and the fact that it doesn’t look integrated at all. The Tesla shingles look amazing and seem so much further ahead compared to traditional panels it’s not even close.

Marques is such a good reviewer and I loved how he explained/broke everything down so someone dumb like me could understand. Like you said, the cost is the main factor here and it is much more than I want to spend and where I live on the east coast, there are three months of the year I would still be pulling from the grid and if I had two EVs it would pull even more in the winter.

At $92,000 after the tax credits, with one EV the payback period is over 20 years and with two EVs it’s about 17 years. The other thing is in MD our garages are so small that the battery system would take up a decent amount of my garage where I would have to get rid of my refrigerator/freezer in my garage. Regardless, what a system, I’m so impressed by it that if I lived in a sunnier/warmer climate and I was building a house I would seriously consider it.
A Tesla solar roof would be better, but I have no issues with panels covering my roof. I would definitely generate way more than I do right now, which is a bit over 50 kWh at peak (6 to 7 kW peak sun). That said, I generate more than I use, even with charging four EV'S and AC use in the summer. AC used to be the biggest consumer in kWh, now it's the four EV'S
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I just noticed that midnight silver is the base color now and the white is now an upcharge for the 3 and Y. Looks like it happened a few weeks ago.
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I just noticed that midnight silver is the base color now and the white is now an upcharge for the 3 and Y. Looks like it happened a few weeks ago.
Too many white Y's hit the road, probably Tesla wanted to mix things up
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
What has stopped wider adoption is partially about Tesla being production contained but a far larger problem is trying to fit them to the variety of homes/roofs there are near limitless variations. And finding installers that can do the work. Tesla learned a hard lesson with their solar setups, making the hardware is in a sense easier than putting them on people's roofs.

He's very chill easy to listen to. The guy makes huge $$$$ and deserved IMO.

For Marques I believe he said 10 year payback, which is actually great. Typical roof is 25+ years and you get nothing out of it in that time. But he gets a good amount of sunshine (I do as well) for many people they will generate half the energy he does.

I don't have power blackouts here but in the N.E. United States it is common power goes out all the time makes a setup like that even more attractive.
I can understand the payback period for him being less if he is all electric but for me I have a dual fuel stove that uses gas, gas furnace, fireplaces, etc. so my typical electric bill is about $250 and then add about $100 per car to charge each month on average is where I got my payback period from as a ballpark estimate.

As for blackouts I rarely have a blackout even in the worst thunder storms so that isn’t an issue for me. If I were building a custom house I would totally consider it since you could net even less in cost because you aren’t buying any normal shingles or paying labor to take off the old shingles.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
A Tesla solar roof would be better, but I have no issues with panels covering my roof. I would definitely generate way more than I do right now, which is a bit over 50 kWh at peak (6 to 7 kW peak sun). That said, I generate more than I use, even with charging four EV'S and AC use in the summer. AC used to be the biggest consumer in kWh, now it's the four EV'S
For me it’s a personal preference with the aesthetics of the traditional panels. Nothing wrong with them, I just don’t love the look on the front of my house. I really really like the Tesla panels. It just looks so seamless, same with the batteries.
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in mkb's video, when he shows b roll of the roof, the solar shingles seem to be in varying shades with groups one color and other groups other colors... so doesn't look so hot to me.
i just had new a/c put in my home, and in middle of florida summer here my elect bill last month was $250 (much less in winter). so i think the payback period for any solar setup would be too long.
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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 07:52 PM
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For me it’s a personal preference with the aesthetics of the traditional panels. Nothing wrong with them, I just don’t love the look on the front of my house. I really really like the Tesla panels. It just looks so seamless, same with the batteries.
Unless the front of your house is South facing (here high noon sun is to the south) or you have the type of roof that slants on both sides, you wouldn't even see the panels. From the front view of my house you can't see the panels unless you are actively looking for them
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If you don't own an EV and/or can't sell energy back to the grid then solar is probably not for you. As for the look people pay extra for tiles that are multi-shaded. Either way this looks 10x better than conventional panels.




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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
in mkb's video, when he shows b roll of the roof, the solar shingles seem to be in varying shades with groups one color and other groups other colors... so doesn't look so hot to me.
i just had new a/c put in my home, and in middle of florida summer here my elect bill last month was $250 (much less in winter). so i think the payback period for any solar setup would be too long.
Darn that cheap electricity. If I didn't have solar, I would be forking out $350 to $500 a month in the summer
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That is super cheap I wonder what the rate is. Even with my paying 6 cents per (deal expires soon) I'm still at about $225/month in summer. Granted I use a bunch of power tools, compressor and the like. I rarely use A/C.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
If you don't own an EV and/or can't sell energy back to the grid then solar is probably not for you. As for the look people pay extra for tiles that are multi-shaded. Either way this looks 10x better than conventional panels.


These are the panels on the North side of my house (from the backyard)


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Those are non offensive. The person that poured your concrete pad doesn't understand concrete lol.
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Those are non offensive. The person that poured your concrete pad doesn't understand concrete lol.
LoL don't get me started on the concrete 😭. The previous owners went cheap on the concrete when remodeling, and didn't use rebar. We haven't redone it yet because it's a $20k job 😕. We have to get the whole thing redone, it's a huge area. It's on my list



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