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Old May 26, 2023 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thanks mmarshall, for triggering the haters again... lol
Don't count me in with the haters. It's true that the Excel and some of the 1990's-vintage Hyundais left a lot to be desired, but I made it clear, in the write-up, that, with new management (because it is a fact), they clearly changed, starting around 2000. The 1997 Tiburon, which I sampled, was probably the first sign of a significant improvement. By the mid-2000s, IMHO, they were competing with the Japanese in overall quality and reliability.....with one of longest warranties in the business.


i recall in hyundai's early days the the hyundai 'pony' sold like crazy in canada.
The price alone drew in a lot of sales. People who couldn't afford any more (or who had lousy credit) were scooping up new Excels and Ponys like it was going out of style. Strangely, Mitsubishi did not sell very many Precis models here in the U.S. under their own name, even though it was an almost identical rebadge....apparantly Hyundai was also undercutting them in pricing.

And, there were also at least some signs that this tendency of low-income/uneducated people to buy the Excels also contributed to its bad reputation. A lot of these buyers knew little or nothing about auto care, neglected basic maintenance, and ran the cars into the ground.



with their rapid growth has come problems, which isn't really surprising.
Hyundai/Kia is now the world's third largest automaker.



garbage or trash, which is it? i had a genesis for 3 years - perfect car. i've had my santa fe for 2 years and it had one recall that didn't even affect the driving and i just got it done during the routine (and FREE) oil change.
I'd buy a Genesis product before I would some Lexus models. In fact, several years ago, if you remember, I came very close to a new AWD G80....it was in second place behind my Lacrosse.


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Old May 26, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KennyFSU
Great story; thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it. I myself enjoy writing about, and sharing my memories of, vehicles from the past.

Back in '01 when I first moved off to college, my parents gave me the family car. A '95 Hyundai Accent (successor to the Excel) and it gave us well over 100k trouble-free miles. Literally nothing needed replacing except tires, oil, and battery. It was a great car and was even a 5-speed. I certainly "riced" it out during my 5 years of ownership too, lol.
The Accent (at that time, also a rebadged next-generation Mitsubishi Precis) was a notable improvement over the original Excel. A Scoupe (2-door coupe version of the Accent) won the Pikes' Peak Hill Climb, a difficult and dangerous motorsport, in 1992...but, by then, so many people were dissatisfied with their Excels that the damage had been done, and would continue to plague the company for years, even after their products became credible.
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Old May 26, 2023 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Don't count me in with the haters.
i didn't. i said your post triggered them.

I'd buy a Genesis product before I would some Lexus models. In fact, several years ago, if you remember, I came very close to a new AWD G80....it was in second place behind my Lacrosse.
yes i do remember that. that gen g80 is very nice. they offered the solid 3.8 v6 and the meaty 5.0 v8.
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Old May 27, 2023 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by KennyFSU
Great story; thanks for sharing!

Back in '01 when I first moved off to college, my parents gave me the family car. A '95 Hyundai Accent (successor to the Excel) and it gave us well over 100k trouble-free miles. Literally nothing needed replacing except tires, oil, and battery. It was a great car and was even a 5-speed. I certainly "riced" it out during my 5 years of ownership too, lol.
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Perfect car for a young person in college to "rice" out. lol
Out of high school in the late 1980's I hadn't heard of ricing yet so not sure when that caught on.

Ricing out a "40yr old virgin" car is a good way to add some Shizaam and sportiness to an otherwise "non-chick magnet" car, that's what I would do anyway if it was me. haha

Originally Posted by tex2670
Uhhh.... when Hyundai debuted in the US in the 1980s, the designs were definitely not modern, and the only thing "appealing" was the price. It wasn't until the mid-2000s when they made design a priority.
I didn't see anyone singing high praises for them, that's for sure. lol

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i didn't. i said your post triggered them.
yes i do remember that. that gen g80 is very nice. they offered the solid 3.8 v6 and the meaty 5.0 v8.
Did you trade your Genesis on your current Lexus or the Hyundai Santa Fe?
Ok, be honest, did the thought ever cross your mind to buy a Hyundai Accent back in the day?

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Originally Posted by Margate330
.I didn't see anyone singing high praises for them, that's for sure. lol
Starting in the mid-2000s or so, praises COULD be sung, in many cases, for Hyundai products, but, despite increasing quality and sales (and a new 10-year warranty) some of the public still stubbornly clung to an anti-Hyundai stance that, by then, was clearly outdated, Even 10 years after that, some still clung stubbornly to that straw.

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Old May 27, 2023 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Did you trade your Genesis on your current Lexus or the Hyundai Santa Fe?
genesis was a 3 yr lease. it's a bit complicated but bottom line, before it was due i got (bought) the Lexus LC500 and when Genesis time was up i returned it and leased the Santa Fe.

Ok, be honest, did the thought ever cross your mind to buy a Hyundai Accent back in the day?
no because i was always fortunate enough to have been able to own a nicer car than that.

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