Simple “connection fee” each time you plug in.
non “green” charging levy in case you plug into a charger that is not using renewable energy

 

I don't love taxes, but I understand the need for taxes. Localities need the revenue from gas taxes, and every EV that is sold removes a portion of that revenue, and they have ti make it up somewhere.

Somebody has got to pay for roads...how else are they going to be built and maintained? When you use roads you are consuming a public resource and you have to pay in to that.

 

i have said that and obviously therefore agree with it.

a combination of fuel surcharges, tolls, registration fees, inspection fees, sales taxes, etc.

 

In CA, independent of EVs, they raise our taxes to fund road maintenance and repair, but then give themselves raises instead of actually doing the work. The government will either be the biggest ally of EV adoption or they will be it's worst enemy. Since I work in the industry, I am personally vested in its success. When politicians make it sound like an edict as in you will EV or walk, it is understandably off putting. In CA, you can bank on the state government taxing as much as they can, however and wherever they can. Instead of doing that, I would want the adoption to start gaining a lot of momentum. There are ways to collect taxes etc at charging stations of course. My approach would be to apply some tax there just like it's built into the price of gasoline. It's fair that everyone needs to pay for the roads. I do see the government particularly in this state getting it wrong.

It is interesting to me hat there are comments about when gas stations go away. I am not saying here, but many other places where I see comments, people are confused about the 2035 "mandate" in CA which states that all NEW vehicle sales in CA will be EVs by 2035. That does not address any of the ICE vehicles on the road now. Those will still need fuel. There will be people who continue to drive those for multiple reasons once this 2035 date arrives. Not everybody will be able to afford an EV. Not even then when there will presumably be more affordable options.

I doubt I will have my 2019 Honda in 2035, but you never know. I will still have the AE86 and I will probably do a historical vehicle tag on that, but I will never convert that car to an EV. It would ruin everything that's good about it. If they say I can't have it, I will be underground like Dennis Leary in Demolition Man. They won't say I can't have it. That is not going to happen.

 

???? what??? no state income tax ?? time to move to Florida!

 

No kidding. I was going to tell bit if he doesn't want a bunch more Californians moving to Florida, he should keep that on the down low. LOL.

 

Great. About time. Here's how taxpayer money is fattening Tesla's wallet:

1. Federal tax credits (up to $7,500) are thrown at EV buyers like candy, sweetening the deal for Tesla customers.
2. State-level giveaways, including rebates and exemptions, make it even more lucrative
3. Governments bend over backward to throw incentives at Tesla for building new facilities, like the Nevada Gigafactory.
4. Tesla snatched up a hefty $465 million ATVM loan in 2010
5. Solar energy incentives further boost Tesla's solar panel and roof business

 

So what happens to all the Income tax and Sales tax the local government collects?!

How about all the RE taxes?

At a certain point - if you count all the taxes you pay on annual basis - it’s completely outrageous and at the end of the day there is still garbage everywhere and all the roads are in disrepair.

 

Gee, you'd think that other car companies would smarten up and take advantage... What's wrong with them?

 

They don't want or need all this FREE money 😄

 

ha, i've had friends who moved to florida from supposedly more 'enlightened' states like california and new york. their tax savings pay for their multiple million dollar homes.

 

their multiple million dollar homes are worth less in Florida than in northern US. And they also pay exorbitant insurance costs on all aspect of life

 

Here's the thing. Wealthy people know how to write off a large portion of their state and federal taxes, you just need a good accountant. Also, states that don't have personal income taxes get it another way. For example, my coworkers in San Antonio don't pay personal income tax, but they pay other taxes that I don't. ALSO, they pay much higher property taxes than I do. I won't say what my house is worth, but I pay about $10K a year in property taxes while my co workers who have properties half the value of mine in Texas pay much higher property taxes than I do. What I'm saying is, if they don't take it from one pocket, they will just take it from another. In other words, Peter will just steal from Paul

Florida might be different, I don't know how you guys are taxed, but I'm sure if I did, they tax you in other sneaky ways. That said, I love your beaches, just amazing!

 

Overall tax burden by state
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...x-burden/20494

 

you're a wealthy person. do you get out of paying california's massive taxes? if by wealthy you're talking people with tens of millions or more net worth (maybe that's you too, i don't know), that's different.

while there's definitely different tax mixes in different places, it is definitely not that simple and not equal. a state like new jersey for example has massive property taxes and hefty state income taxes. but it sort of works because income (pay) is high, because it has to be or they couldn't attract people to go there or stay. nj also benefits from being between washington dc, philadelphia and new york city.

thank you, and because of those beaches, and disney, etc., florida has a pretty unique advantage compared to most states... it gets huge amounts of sales tax, hotel tax, fuel taxes, and other taxes from visitors. that's one reason it can afford to not have to tax its residents as much. also, the ton of people who don't live in florida but own a property here... they pay a LOAD more property tax as they don't have a 'homestead exemption'.

thank you. i'll take 46th out of 50.