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Alignment is finished. That was time consuming. I'm pretty satisfied with the outcome though. This was my first time attempting it and I can't believe I hadn't done it before. It really isn't complicated but shops make it seem like rocket science lol
I maxed out Castor and adjusted Camber to 1.9 degrees. That was the easy part lol The part that took most of the time is Toe... I put toe at 1/32 of Toe-in.
So why the toe in on front suspension? Also it’s pretty easy to get another 1/2 degree on camber if you fully slot the eccentric slot in the subframe if you need it.
So why the toe in on front suspension? Also it’s pretty easy to get another 1/2 degree on camber if you fully slot the eccentric slot in the subframe if you need it.
In general, on rear wheel drive cars, it's recommended to have a bit of Toe-in. It's supposed to aid with stability. In my case, I just had to pick a starting point and tune from there. 0.8 mm or 1/32th is pretty conservative, but it's just a starting point for me. I think as I get more aggressive, might swing the pendulum in the Toe-out direction.
Also, it seemed to have quite a bit of camber left in it (I saw up to 2.7 degrees). I was shooting for 1.7 or so, it came oout to 1.9 once the suspension settled.
In general, on rear wheel drive cars, it's recommended to have a bit of Toe-in. It's supposed to aid with stability. In my case, I just had to pick a starting point and tune from there. 0.8 mm or 1/32th is pretty conservative, but it's just a starting point for me. I think as I get more aggressive, might swing the pendulum in the Toe-out direction.
Also, it seemed to have quite a bit of camber left in it (I saw up to 2.7 degrees). I was shooting for 1.7 or so, it came oout to 1.9 once the suspension settled.
You are talking about front suspension right? I can’t think of a single reason to toe in a front suspension. I understand toe in on rear, that makes sense to make the car stable. Neutral or slightly out on front should be the range for control.
You are talking about front suspension right? I can’t think of a single reason to toe in a front suspension. I understand toe in on rear, that makes sense to make the car stable. Neutral or slightly out on front should be the range for control.
Sorry I havent been on here for a while.
Yes, i was talking about front suspension. The theory is when the rear axle drives the car, it results in toeing out the front. Toe in, in the front, is known to increase stability, especially under braking. On the other hand, Toe out, in the front, is know to increase the responsiveness of the steering system. So it's a matter of preference of the driver... you want a responsive car, but not a "twitchy" car...
in the rear, especially for a rear drive car, it is also known that a toe in is the way.... I can't think of a single reason you'd have toe out in the rear (there might be one, just not known to me lol)
in the end, I dont think it matters that much what the measurement is. I think the rubber bushings everywhere negate what the absolute measurement is, so iteration is key. I will probably have to do it all over after I switch to heims..
Last edited by madmax98; Jan 24, 2022 at 07:32 PM.
Sorry I havent been on here for a while.
Yes, i was talking about front suspension. The theory is when the rear axle drives the car, it results in toeing out the front. Toe in, in the front, is known to increase stability, especially under braking. On the other hand, Toe out, in the front, is know to increase the responsiveness of the steering system. So it's a matter of preference of the driver... you want a responsive car, but not a "twitchy" car...
in the rear, especially for a rear drive car, it is also known that a toe in is the way.... I can't think of a single reason you'd have toe out in the rear (there might be one, just not known to me lol)
in the end, I dont think it matters that much what the measurement is. I think the rubber bushings everywhere negate what the absolute measurement is, so iteration is key. I will probably have to do it all over after I switch to heims..
The only guys that purposefully toe in the front are front wheel drive cars. Front toe out helps in a turn as the outside tire gets grip toe for that tire tends to be forced in which matches the inside tire track, theoretically. The reason you would toe out the rear is to make the car turn in or make it loose. People do it all the time. That is also car dependent and driver preference dependent. Some guys like a loose car, but you have to be on top of it when you do. Loose is fast. I have one driver that just does not like a loose car, so we always set toe in on the rear for him, makes it more stable. All in all, most people probably won't feel the front toe, but toe out in the rear you will definitely feel. But there are other ways to make a car turn in besides toe. You can do it by stiffening the rear springs, you can even do it with air pressure.
Oyi! It has been a while lol Got a new job in the end of 2021 and it has been busy to say the least. I managed to do stuff on the car though, just not enough time to lurk on the forums.
First, I took out the seat belts and added a harness bar in preparation for a harness. I had it for a few years and it was in rough shape from storage so I sanded it to raw metal and painted.
Finally, pulled out my composite hood and added the vents you see there. I shaped the vents from foam over Christmas of 2021. It must have taken me a couple of months to finalize.
Why can't I resize these photos?????!!!!!!
Here's the inside of the hood.
Oh yeah! I made an inside duct to extract air from behind the radiator. I coulda sworn I took a lot of photos, but apparently I lost most of them when I switched phones.
Last edited by madmax98; Oct 3, 2023 at 06:14 PM.
Reason: Trying to resize photos
Previously I was able to to snip photos and paste them in the post. Did something change or am I screwing up on my end? Being able to snip photos and paste in the post makes it so much easier to post here.
More Updates catching up: I started dabbling with 3d scanning last year. My main objective was to scan the outside of the car and tighten up my CFD model. Tried different scanners with no luck. The latest was Revopoint. All were pretty much garbage. Finally my wife got me the Einstar for my birthday. And that one worked wonderfully.
Still, scanning the car had some challenges. The most notable is having large flat black surfaces. I had to coat it like you seen in the pics with baby-powder. You also couldn't scan the car in one shot because the file size grows quickly and it makes it difficult to process. Ultimately, I couldn't use the scan as a 3d model due to geometry having too many triangles. However, I was able to use it as graphic (as in an image) and guide my cad design.
Having some fun with the engine bay:
I will post a pic of the first product I made via scanning when I get home.
Lovin the hood as well - I know what kind of work goes into that. And to have it look nice to boot, too cool. Keep up the awesome work, and from one nerd to another I love seeing the 3d scans!
Lovin the hood as well - I know what kind of work goes into that. And to have it look nice to boot, too cool. Keep up the awesome work, and from one nerd to another I love seeing the 3d scans!
Thanks man. I had taken photos as I was progressing through it but some how I can't find them. So months of work boil down to a couple of photos lol
I have some 3D scanning/printing and fabrication coming up so stay tuned
