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02-25-13, 09:54 PM
#16
Find something you like and stick with it. I'm currently using Menzerna Fast Gloss with Meguiars MF pads. Great combo with low hologramming. I usually finish with Menzerna 106FA with a black Lake Country pad.
In the past, Menzerna SIP and 106FA were all I used on the notoriously brutal Jet Black BMW paint. It was the first paint I learned on so I mastered it quick. Combined with the correct pad and Porter Cable, removal of the paint was minimal while yielding amazing results. You'll learn techniques as you go so don't stress too much
In the past, Menzerna SIP and 106FA were all I used on the notoriously brutal Jet Black BMW paint. It was the first paint I learned on so I mastered it quick. Combined with the correct pad and Porter Cable, removal of the paint was minimal while yielding amazing results. You'll learn techniques as you go so don't stress too much
02-26-13, 09:23 PM
#21
Lol how bad is your paint that you are using FG400 on your Lexus? That is so overkill I don't even want to go there.If you plan on keeping your car for a while....remember to keep the polishing and corrections to a minimum.
It's the maintenance and upkeep that really makes the difference. Wash and maintain your car in a way that you are not adding more damage. That means using a good LSP and washing method. Ideally you'd want a pressure washer.
But yeah, I'd think twice before polishing your car with FG400 like it's no big deal... remember the more clear you remove, the less UV protection you have on the paint. If you polish the paint that aggressively on a consistent basis, you're gonna run out of clear to work with and ultimately done more damage than good.
ALWAYS try the least aggressive method first, especially if you're just beginning and have no idea how hard or soft your paint is. Sure the FG400 will remove the swirls and minor scratches, but maybe a much less aggressive polish would have done the job and in the process finished out better? Only way to know for sure is to try least aggressive first and move on to a combo that yields the results you're after.
It's the maintenance and upkeep that really makes the difference. Wash and maintain your car in a way that you are not adding more damage. That means using a good LSP and washing method. Ideally you'd want a pressure washer.
But yeah, I'd think twice before polishing your car with FG400 like it's no big deal... remember the more clear you remove, the less UV protection you have on the paint. If you polish the paint that aggressively on a consistent basis, you're gonna run out of clear to work with and ultimately done more damage than good.
ALWAYS try the least aggressive method first, especially if you're just beginning and have no idea how hard or soft your paint is. Sure the FG400 will remove the swirls and minor scratches, but maybe a much less aggressive polish would have done the job and in the process finished out better? Only way to know for sure is to try least aggressive first and move on to a combo that yields the results you're after.
02-27-13, 07:31 AM
#22
ALWAYS try the least aggressive method first, especially if you're just beginning and have no idea how hard or soft your paint is. Sure the FG400 will remove the swirls and minor scratches, but maybe a much less aggressive polish would have done the job and in the process finished out better? Only way to know for sure is to try least aggressive first and move on to a combo that yields the results you're after.
02-27-13, 09:32 AM
#23
I'm trying to put some money together for a good pressure washer this summer for personal use. It's not REALLY needed because so many of today's good coatings are slick and make it easy to wash using the regular two bucket method and garden hose, but I can't stop thinking of all the videos where Opti-Coated cars + pressure washers = dirt and bugs just rinsed off without even touching the paint.
The washing technique is really up to you and what you prefer. Some people swear by using ONR. I've done it several times, but it's not my preferred way of washing. So it's more of a personal preference whether you choose to use a waterless/rinseless/traditional method of washing. You just need to understand there is a time and place for all of those and one might be a better idea than the other in some instances.
The washing technique is really up to you and what you prefer. Some people swear by using ONR. I've done it several times, but it's not my preferred way of washing. So it's more of a personal preference whether you choose to use a waterless/rinseless/traditional method of washing. You just need to understand there is a time and place for all of those and one might be a better idea than the other in some instances.
02-27-13, 03:42 PM
#24
Let me chime in real quick. My paint looked good in most light. But once i put a shop light on it i was blown away by the swirls. I used the Griot's Garage Random Orbital with white 6in pad with Meguiars Ultimate Compound and then Tech Wax2.0 and the results blew me away.
Before and Afters
Before and Afters
02-27-13, 05:28 PM
#25
Here's a video with Mike Phillips actually working on a Black IS250, with all of the tools were talking about.
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zUHRnHsSXZU#!
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zUHRnHsSXZU#!
Part 3
Digger08
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zUHRnHsSXZU#!
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zUHRnHsSXZU#!
Part 3
Digger08
Last edited by digger08; 02-27-13 at 05:36 PM.
03-01-13, 07:11 AM
#27
Sevenevez, definitely an overkill for most people, but it looks like you ran your pictures through Neat Image, literally. Lol.
From my perspective, I would go only so far as my naked eye can see in good daylight. To that point, what will work best for the Obsidian Black on the IS250?
From my perspective, I would go only so far as my naked eye can see in good daylight. To that point, what will work best for the Obsidian Black on the IS250?
03-01-13, 07:36 AM
#28
Sevenevez, definitely an overkill for most people, but it looks like you ran your pictures through Neat Image, literally. Lol.
From my perspective, I would go only so far as my naked eye can see in good daylight. To that point, what will work best for the Obsidian Black on the IS250?
From my perspective, I would go only so far as my naked eye can see in good daylight. To that point, what will work best for the Obsidian Black on the IS250?
Once you restore your paint to proper condition, you should not need to polish again for quite a long time... and when the time comes it should not need to be nearly as aggressive as the original correction. Proper washing, drying, and protection techniques make ALL the difference in maintaining a swirl free finish.
04-04-13, 08:01 PM
#29
Is there a "kit" you guys would recommend when working on a black car? or different companies offer different products where one is better than the other?
I need my car done soon cause after looking at it in the sun today, it started to really bother me. Ive done detailing before, but I currently dont have any of my own good products to use and I was either going to take my car to someone to do it or I thought about doing it myself. I have a black 2001 GS btw.
thanks
I need my car done soon cause after looking at it in the sun today, it started to really bother me. Ive done detailing before, but I currently dont have any of my own good products to use and I was either going to take my car to someone to do it or I thought about doing it myself. I have a black 2001 GS btw.
thanks
04-04-13, 08:21 PM
#30
Chris, just get a porter cable or the Griots DA polisher along with several Lake Country orange and Crimson 5.5" pads. For polish, I would either go with D300 or Menzerna SIP for the first step, and finish with either Menz. 106FA/85RD or Sonax Perfect Finish.
Menzerna are amazing polishes, it's what I use on my own car....but if you can get your hands on the German version of the Perfect Finish... it's all you will ever need to maintain your car. It's an unbelievable polish to work with.
If you need your car done, PM me dude. Don't go to those buff and shine **** shops that you think are going to do anything but throw a glaze with a rotary on it in an hour. I now work with Ivan at LUSTR Auto Detail part time...and I can tell you some of the cars we do are just so trashed, you can't put words to it. Either get the kit and take the time to do it yourself or just leave it with swirls... I honestly believe that's better than having retards burning your paint and leaving holograms all over.
Roman
Menzerna are amazing polishes, it's what I use on my own car....but if you can get your hands on the German version of the Perfect Finish... it's all you will ever need to maintain your car. It's an unbelievable polish to work with.
If you need your car done, PM me dude. Don't go to those buff and shine **** shops that you think are going to do anything but throw a glaze with a rotary on it in an hour. I now work with Ivan at LUSTR Auto Detail part time...and I can tell you some of the cars we do are just so trashed, you can't put words to it. Either get the kit and take the time to do it yourself or just leave it with swirls... I honestly believe that's better than having retards burning your paint and leaving holograms all over.
Roman