Based on the monthly sales threads, and for my post whoring and your debating pleasure, here's my contribution... (Someone else can format the numbers if they want.)

Some of you may not agree with my placing of certain models into the different near, mid, and high lux groups, but my argument for that is size concerns, for the most part. I also took into account pricing and magazine comparo groupings.

 

JUNE 2005
"3-series" 9582
CTS 7340
TL 6246
ES330 6048
"G35" 5514
C-class 4605
"A4" 3881
9-3 3608
S60/V70 3446
TSX 3085
"S40/V50" 2655
X-type 1154
IS300 413
I35 24

MAY 2005
"3-series" 10608
TL 7032
CTS 6184
ES330 6027
"G35" 5266
C-class 4359
"A4" 3520
TSX 3367
S60/V70 3156
"S40/V50" 2682
9-3 2245
X-type 1033
IS300 430
I35 49

APR 2005
TL 7206
"3-series" 6994
CTS 6182
"G35" 5831
ES330 5597
C-class 4496
"A4" 4185
TSX 3329
S60/V70 2912
"S40/V50" 2643
9-3 2189
X-type 1038
IS300 454
I35 72

MAR 2005
"3-series" 7555
"G35" 7228
TL 7217
ES330 5706
CTS 5430
C-class 4901
"A4" 3771
S60/V70 3121
TSX 3107
"S40/V50" 2633
9-3 2258
X-type 1435
IS300 439
I35 206

FEB 2005
"3-series" 7181
"G35" 5984
TL 5934
ES330 4583
CTS 4369
C-class 4020
"A4" 3269
"S40/V50" 2670
TSX 2638
S60/V70 2636
9-3 1933
X-type 1071
IS300 428
I35 253

JAN 2005
"3-series" 7033
"G35" 4873
TL 4753
ES330 4487
CTS 3603
C-class 3548
"A4" 3057
"S40/V50" 2540
S60/V70 2535
TSX 2246
9-3 1139
X-type 856
IS300 453
I35 411

 

JUNE 2005
E-class 4205
"5-series" 4183
"STS" 3722
"GS" 3317
"M45" 2480
LS 1780
A6 1581
RL 1565
S80 872
S-type 845
9-5 691

MAY 2005
"5-series" 3611
E-class 3569
"STS" 3388
"GS" 3141
"M45" 2170
LS 1777
RL 1404
A6 1313
S-type 784
S80 759
9-5 502

APR 2005
"5-series" 4571
E-class 3731
"STS" 3555
"GS" 3198
"M45" 2288
LS 1948
A6 1635
RL 1304
S80 838
S-type 798
9-5 597

MAR 2005
"5-series" 3947
E-class 3608
"GS" 3209
"STS" 2973
LS 2595
"M45" 2253
A6 1681
RL 1376
S80 1166
S-type 1023
9-5 473

FEB 2005
"5-series" 3794
LS 2812
E-class 2596
"STS" 2024
"GS" 1947
RL 1412
A6 1264
S80 945
S-type 798
9-5 451
M45 225

JAN 2005
"5-series" 3278
E-class 2725
"STS" 1940
LS 1516
RL 1371
A6 1209
S80 1072
S-type 620
"GS" 502
9-5 294
M45 90

 

JUNE 2005
DeVille 9449
Town Car 4695
LS430 2290
7-series 1771
S-class 1330
XJ 562
A8/S8 375
Q45 76
Phaeton 74

MAY 2005
DeVille 5804
Town Car 4314
LS430 2251
7-series 1514
S-class 1369
XJ 627
A8/S8 452
Q45 78
Phaeton 65

APR 2005
DeVille 4503
Town Car 3631
LS430 2398
S-class 1457
7-series 1182
XJ 789
A8/S8 545
Q45 81
Phaeton 61

MAR 2005
Town Car 5238
DeVille 3259
LS430 2537
S-class 1384
7-series 1110
XJ 850
A8/S8 550
Q45 158
Phaeton 83

FEB 2005
DeVille 4638
Town Car 4011
LS430 2028
7-series 1127
S-class 1028
XJ 856
A8/S8 338
Q45 137
Phaeton 69

JAN 2005
Town Car 2571
DeVille 2558
LS430 2117
7-series 1189
S-class 1064
XJ 627
A8/S8 357
Q45 108
Phaeton 90

 

i swear my dad predicted the Infiniti M situation; they'd sell in the very beginning and then flop.

 

Well, typically new models sell better in the beginning than after a few months, but I'd hardly call sales a flop yet.

JUNE 2005
"M45" 2480

MAY 2005
"M45" 2170

APR 2005
"M45" 2288

MAR 2005
"M45" 2253

FEB 2005
M45 225

JAN 2005
M45 90

Jan-Feb is previous M45, Mar-Jun is current M35/M45 consolidated.

 

Why do you say that? The sales don't seem to be decreasing from the numbers posted other than a little dip in May that was more than made up for in June?

 

Someone must have read the list in reverse Just a guess

 

Damn even in its last year(maybe second to last year) the LS430 is still outselling its main competition by 1,000 units. Pretty damn impressive.

Ummm....atleast there are people actually buying the Phateon about 70 per month. Still pretty bad, but what can ya do.

That CTS came out of no where last month. Nevermind, GM Employee Discount. I forgot.

 

So the new IS should be about mid-pack in that class, just under the C-class.

 

Yes, the new IS probably can't do much better than that without coupe & convertible versions like the 3 series.

BTW, I don't think some of the lists are valid comparisons between the brands because the sedan/coupe/convertible sales are lumped together & some brands do not offer the coupe/convertible versions.

 

I guess I could have separated out the sedans, but then some could argue that people may have purchased a 325i if the 325Ci weren't available, etc.

 

That could be possible in "some " cases, but without a 325ci, that person could have gone with a G35 coupe, but can't get a Lexus IS coupe since it does not exist.
If offering more variations won't increase overall sales substantially, why do you think the manufacturers would spend more to make more variations ? Making just one model will be economically more efficient than different variations if sales will remain the same or even close with just one.

Me for example, I' d never have bought a G35 sedan if the G35 coupe does not exist.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see the LS sell >3500 when the new model comes out.

 

The LS430 had sold 3000+ per month for some months last year even with the 2004 MY facelift/upgrades.