Tires - Soft AND Quiet?
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Tires - Soft AND Quiet?
I’ve searched and read many posts regarding tires, lots of good info. I currently have run-flats that came with the car when purchased – capable, but harsh and noisy; after 20k miles its time for replacement.
Which tires offer the best combination of soft/smooth and quiet?
Which tires offer the best combination of soft/smooth and quiet?
Last edited by jekoda; 01-23-08 at 07:48 PM.
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I’ve searched and read many posts regarding tires, lots of good info. I currently have run-flats that came with the car when purchased – capable, but harsh and noisy; after 20k miles its time for replacement.
Which tires offer the best combination of soft/smooth and quiet?
Which tires offer the best combination of soft/smooth and quiet?
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Assuming you have the 18" wheels on the car...
If you don't want runflats, I would choose the Bridgestone RE960A/S or Michelin HX MXM4 - these are going to be the quietest, most touring style tires available...
If you do want runflats, things are going to get a little rougher, but there are still some decent options... Bridgestone ER33 or EL42 are your only real good touring options in that size, runflat...
Those are your quiet / comfortable tires... If you want something more performance oriented, then the Michelin PS2 or Bridgestone RE050 would be good options, but give up comfort a little due to stiffer, more performance oriented sidewalls...
If you don't want runflats, I would choose the Bridgestone RE960A/S or Michelin HX MXM4 - these are going to be the quietest, most touring style tires available...
If you do want runflats, things are going to get a little rougher, but there are still some decent options... Bridgestone ER33 or EL42 are your only real good touring options in that size, runflat...
Those are your quiet / comfortable tires... If you want something more performance oriented, then the Michelin PS2 or Bridgestone RE050 would be good options, but give up comfort a little due to stiffer, more performance oriented sidewalls...
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jekoda,
I have spent many dollars (and miles) on a plethora of tires, and must confess that I'm a bit of a tire-freak. Despite the prospect of boring you to death, here's a thread in which I had contributed several postings to:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...t=13288&page=2
Well, now I own a '07 GS350 (truly the sweet-spot ride for me). I bought it off the showroom floor at year-end. I got a fantastic deal (thanks Steve!) on the exact car I wanted, (sans the chrome oem rims -- gratefully alloy's are en route); and complete with oem Yokohama Advan A10's, which I hate...
Do yourself a simple favor. Go to tirerack.com and have a set of Pirelli PZero Nero M&S tires sent to your favorite local tire shop (no tax / minimal shipping charge). You can have them mounted and balanced at the afore-mentioned local shop, which you can also find on the site (complete with reviews and mounting costs). These were the last set of treads on my GS400 (which I believe has a comparable weight to your ride). They are quiet, smooth-riding, and undeniably the best set of tires I had on the GS400. They will definitely be going on my new GS as well.
As for taking recommendations from all model owners... no disrespect, but you truly should only seriously consider the opinions of fellow GS owners when it comes to this subject. It just makes simple sense. We have our own unique issues to deal with (uh, can you say $1G for "recommended" ball joint replacement?). Although die-hard GS aficionados’ might publically scoff to such "recommendations", it's likely that most will take proper care to quietly have them done. Just goes to show that in the numerous Club Lexus events in which I've attended, it's the GS owners that are most enthused with the true pursuit of perfection.
Now go getcha' some new treads!
I have spent many dollars (and miles) on a plethora of tires, and must confess that I'm a bit of a tire-freak. Despite the prospect of boring you to death, here's a thread in which I had contributed several postings to:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...t=13288&page=2
Well, now I own a '07 GS350 (truly the sweet-spot ride for me). I bought it off the showroom floor at year-end. I got a fantastic deal (thanks Steve!) on the exact car I wanted, (sans the chrome oem rims -- gratefully alloy's are en route); and complete with oem Yokohama Advan A10's, which I hate...
Do yourself a simple favor. Go to tirerack.com and have a set of Pirelli PZero Nero M&S tires sent to your favorite local tire shop (no tax / minimal shipping charge). You can have them mounted and balanced at the afore-mentioned local shop, which you can also find on the site (complete with reviews and mounting costs). These were the last set of treads on my GS400 (which I believe has a comparable weight to your ride). They are quiet, smooth-riding, and undeniably the best set of tires I had on the GS400. They will definitely be going on my new GS as well.
As for taking recommendations from all model owners... no disrespect, but you truly should only seriously consider the opinions of fellow GS owners when it comes to this subject. It just makes simple sense. We have our own unique issues to deal with (uh, can you say $1G for "recommended" ball joint replacement?). Although die-hard GS aficionados’ might publically scoff to such "recommendations", it's likely that most will take proper care to quietly have them done. Just goes to show that in the numerous Club Lexus events in which I've attended, it's the GS owners that are most enthused with the true pursuit of perfection.
Now go getcha' some new treads!
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dont expect anything to be very soft, considering the short sidewalls. they will make a difference compared to the rf's, but it won't be like driving an LS with 16" wheels!
that being said, kumho makes an excellent tire that always impresses first time buyers. i've installed them on every type of lexus, jaguar, audi, land rover, nissan, and more. during my final test drive, the kumhos are just as nice as any so called top of the line, over priced tire.
make sure your alignment is spot on too. if your alignment is off anywhere, it iwll wear the tires unevenly making them noisy far before they should be.
that being said, kumho makes an excellent tire that always impresses first time buyers. i've installed them on every type of lexus, jaguar, audi, land rover, nissan, and more. during my final test drive, the kumhos are just as nice as any so called top of the line, over priced tire.
make sure your alignment is spot on too. if your alignment is off anywhere, it iwll wear the tires unevenly making them noisy far before they should be.
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dont expect anything to be very soft, considering the short sidewalls. they will make a difference compared to the rf's, but it won't be like driving an LS with 16" wheels!
that being said, kumho makes an excellent tire that always impresses first time buyers. i've installed them on every type of lexus, jaguar, audi, land rover, nissan, and more. during my final test drive, the kumhos are just as nice as any so called top of the line, over priced tire.
make sure your alignment is spot on too. if your alignment is off anywhere, it iwll wear the tires unevenly making them noisy far before they should be.
that being said, kumho makes an excellent tire that always impresses first time buyers. i've installed them on every type of lexus, jaguar, audi, land rover, nissan, and more. during my final test drive, the kumhos are just as nice as any so called top of the line, over priced tire.
make sure your alignment is spot on too. if your alignment is off anywhere, it iwll wear the tires unevenly making them noisy far before they should be.
I will add one definite thing - make sure you rotate your tires - in addition to the alignment that was suggested, if you don't rotate the tires often enough, it will adversely affect tire wear and can also cause more noise and uneven wear...
The Pirelli Pzero Nero has been a decent tire as well, but in terms of quality, well, lets say, it wasn't my favorite tire - I had good luck, for the most part with them, but had a few tires that would just not run good, no matter what, and a few defects as well... In comparison, with Michelin and Bridgestone 4+ years old...
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well, you're right, they can't hang with a big name tire if you compare their top end series tires. for most people though, th emiddle of the line tires compare very favorably.
i agree also about the pzero nero, they're ok, but not quite as good as i expect out of something like that.
i agree also about the pzero nero, they're ok, but not quite as good as i expect out of something like that.
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In my experience as a tire shop manager I have grown to dislike runflats. They ride like crap, they dont last long at all, they are a PITA to mount and they cost a ton. Lately the manufacturers have been using runflats as a way to avoid finding room for a spare. I'm not sure if the GS comes with one or not but you should take that into consideration if you are going to a non run-flat tire.
I have to agree that as far as performance tires go, the PE2 rides very nicely. The PS2 is actually (according to Michelin) a smoother riding tire... but it's tread life rating is lower. Also, both of these tires are considered a summer tire and are not made for snow and ice.
Good luck to you on your tires,
Christopher Shepherd
Shepherd Tire, Inc.
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IT IS ALL ABOUT THE WAY WE DRIVE!!!
Initially my GS came with infamous Yokohama Advan A10B, they were the nosiest tires I had ever owned.
My service advisor at Sewell first replaced them with Michelin PS2, but later with Michelin Primacy HP(for some reason PS2 was not approved by Lexus).
After 9,000 miles on Michelin Primacy HP, they still have those rubber stubs on them like when they were still new!!!
Initially my GS came with infamous Yokohama Advan A10B, they were the nosiest tires I had ever owned.
My service advisor at Sewell first replaced them with Michelin PS2, but later with Michelin Primacy HP(for some reason PS2 was not approved by Lexus).
After 9,000 miles on Michelin Primacy HP, they still have those rubber stubs on them like when they were still new!!!
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1. In general, does the 235/45R17 Michelin Pilot Primacy has better tread life than the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2? The Primacy is more comfy and quieter?
2. My current tires are Z rate. Do I have to stick with Z rate tires? I prefer comfy and quiet rides over ultra performance.
2. My current tires are Z rate. Do I have to stick with Z rate tires? I prefer comfy and quiet rides over ultra performance.
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1. In general, does the 235/45R17 Michelin Pilot Primacy has better tread life than the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2? The Primacy is more comfy and quieter?
2. My current tires are Z rate. Do I have to stick with Z rate tires? I prefer comfy and quiet rides over ultra performance.
2. My current tires are Z rate. Do I have to stick with Z rate tires? I prefer comfy and quiet rides over ultra performance.
What was the stock speed rating of your vehicle - you should not deviate below what it came with, however it is up to you if you should choose to... I will not install a lower speed rated tire on my customers cars - I feel it is doing them a disservice, and it opens up the retailer for potential lawsuits and such....