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but yeah.. Sumitomo's are like $94-$99 each. Generals are like $111
forget about Michelin's.. they are the most expensive..
if you can bump up your spending limit about $100.. you will get a much better tire.
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people who don't spend much on tires also don't expect much - thats why you see many cheap tires get rave reviews on tirerack and other review places like consumer reports...
when you spend more on your tires (or really anything else) you expect more so you are more critical...
while this guy has said he has no problems with his sumitomos, if he was driving a set of real good tires, and compared them back to back, he would see that a better set handled better, was more predictable at the limit, and in many times, gets better wet weather traction (safer) as well...
I've driven everything from Sumitomos to Kumhos, Michelin to Goodyear, Bridgestone to General, Firestone to Yokohama... I've also been able to test many of them in wet weather conditions as well... It is truly amazing the difference a set of tires will make on a car with absolutely zero other changes...
Here's a quick example:
Stock 2006 V6 Mustang comes with BFGoodrich Traction T/A's 215/65-15... Yokohama set us up a Autocross course and had us do blind back to back comparisons of the stock BFG (which I like), and the Yokohama Avid TRZ (same size). The autocross course was fairly long, with many different elements... it was professionally timed, and everyone in my group was consistently 2-4 seconds faster on Yokohamas tires... Amazing what a set of tires will do to a car, and this particular comparison was amongst two name brand good tires. Imagine the differences between a cheap tire and a premium tire...
one last note - in doing adjustments for manufacturer defect, tires like the Michelins, Bridgestones and BFGoodrich rarely ever have true manufacturer defects unlike some cheaper brands.
when you spend more on your tires (or really anything else) you expect more so you are more critical...
while this guy has said he has no problems with his sumitomos, if he was driving a set of real good tires, and compared them back to back, he would see that a better set handled better, was more predictable at the limit, and in many times, gets better wet weather traction (safer) as well...
I've driven everything from Sumitomos to Kumhos, Michelin to Goodyear, Bridgestone to General, Firestone to Yokohama... I've also been able to test many of them in wet weather conditions as well... It is truly amazing the difference a set of tires will make on a car with absolutely zero other changes...
Here's a quick example:
Stock 2006 V6 Mustang comes with BFGoodrich Traction T/A's 215/65-15... Yokohama set us up a Autocross course and had us do blind back to back comparisons of the stock BFG (which I like), and the Yokohama Avid TRZ (same size). The autocross course was fairly long, with many different elements... it was professionally timed, and everyone in my group was consistently 2-4 seconds faster on Yokohamas tires... Amazing what a set of tires will do to a car, and this particular comparison was amongst two name brand good tires. Imagine the differences between a cheap tire and a premium tire...
one last note - in doing adjustments for manufacturer defect, tires like the Michelins, Bridgestones and BFGoodrich rarely ever have true manufacturer defects unlike some cheaper brands.
#10
My family has 3 LS400's and have had every kind of tire in every price range you can imagine on them over the total of 500,000 miles these cars have on their combined odometers.
We have not ventured into the ultra high performance category since that is not the nature of the vehicle.
Having said that I run a 235/45/18 Kumho SPT and am amazed by them.
Mitsu Guy values the test, well so do I. Go to the Tirerack forum and check out the Goodyears, Yokohamas & General (UHP's) tires that these flat *** embarrass.
Buddy has the SPT's on his GS400 & he feels the same. Wet grip is shocking & they so outclass the OEM bridgestones that it is a joke.
Proof is in the pudding, not in the price.
We have not ventured into the ultra high performance category since that is not the nature of the vehicle.
Having said that I run a 235/45/18 Kumho SPT and am amazed by them.
Mitsu Guy values the test, well so do I. Go to the Tirerack forum and check out the Goodyears, Yokohamas & General (UHP's) tires that these flat *** embarrass.
Buddy has the SPT's on his GS400 & he feels the same. Wet grip is shocking & they so outclass the OEM bridgestones that it is a joke.
Proof is in the pudding, not in the price.
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