Supra Brakes Impact On Stock System
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Supra Brakes Impact On Stock System
So, I'm researching brake upgrades, and the Supra setup is at the top ofd the list so far.
- The OEM braking system was designed to work with smaller, less powerful brakes
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for lighter brakes
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for brakes that were proportionally adjusted (front & rear)
So if all of a sudden, you bolt on heavier, more powerful brakes, just in the front, wouldn't that negatively effect the braking performance, or, can the braking system decipher the adjustment?
How does ABS see it?
I wouldn't think so, and haven't read anything here, but from and engineering perspective, you just don't bolt on bigger and better pieces to a specifically designed system and get a linear better result.
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- The OEM braking system was designed to work with smaller, less powerful brakes
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for lighter brakes
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for brakes that were proportionally adjusted (front & rear)
So if all of a sudden, you bolt on heavier, more powerful brakes, just in the front, wouldn't that negatively effect the braking performance, or, can the braking system decipher the adjustment?
How does ABS see it?
I wouldn't think so, and haven't read anything here, but from and engineering perspective, you just don't bolt on bigger and better pieces to a specifically designed system and get a linear better result.
TIA
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Re: Supra Brakes Impact On Stock System
Originally posted by Dex
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for lighter brakes
How does ABS see it?
- The system was calibrated (I'm assuming) for lighter brakes
How does ABS see it?
I was worried about ABS when I did my brake upgrade, but it seems to work just fine. I probably tested it too soon in the break-in period of my rotors and contributed to their needing to be resurfaced. My neck still hurts from the test.
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for the record, the abs system works very well with my ap racing as well. as long as i stop hard and the fornt locks up (start to hear tires chirp) abs kicks in right the way and works its way through. i test drove manaray's car with ap racing and it's the same thing too. not sure how abs exactly works (what it monitors, etc...) but seems like it's working very well. and the ap racing has much lighter weight and much more aggressive stopping power.
and of course, when you upgrade brakes, you should ALWAYS upgrade rear to some extend to get a relatively balanced system. so if someone goes out and get the ap racing front, but decide to keep the stock rear, i would smile and really think it's a pretty good looking system but that's about it. that's why when i upgraded my systems, i got ss lines for the back as well, together with new drilled rotors and more aggressive pads. of course, upgrading the rear calipers as well would be the best (if calculated right) for the most balanced setup, but money always comes into play. in my car my stopping definitely doesn't degrade a little bit with the upgrade, so i believe my new pads and ss lines at the back do a pretty good job already.
and of course, when you upgrade brakes, you should ALWAYS upgrade rear to some extend to get a relatively balanced system. so if someone goes out and get the ap racing front, but decide to keep the stock rear, i would smile and really think it's a pretty good looking system but that's about it. that's why when i upgraded my systems, i got ss lines for the back as well, together with new drilled rotors and more aggressive pads. of course, upgrading the rear calipers as well would be the best (if calculated right) for the most balanced setup, but money always comes into play. in my car my stopping definitely doesn't degrade a little bit with the upgrade, so i believe my new pads and ss lines at the back do a pretty good job already.
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Originally posted by rominl
...and of course, when you upgrade brakes, you should ALWAYS upgrade rear to some extend...
...and of course, when you upgrade brakes, you should ALWAYS upgrade rear to some extend...
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Originally posted by rominl
and the ap racing has much lighter weight and much more aggressive stopping power.
and the ap racing has much lighter weight and much more aggressive stopping power.
What's the weight of the AP racing setup? It uses even larger rotors than the Supra TT setup which have to be heavier too, right?
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Originally posted by Dex
C/D + Slotted + EBC Greens is what I have in the rear right now, but stock calipers. Could I add SS lines and be done back there?
C/D + Slotted + EBC Greens is what I have in the rear right now, but stock calipers. Could I add SS lines and be done back there?
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
Rominl,
What's the weight of the AP racing setup? It uses even larger rotors than the Supra TT setup which have to be heavier too, right?
Rominl,
What's the weight of the AP racing setup? It uses even larger rotors than the Supra TT setup which have to be heavier too, right?
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Originally posted by Dex
C/D + Slotted + EBC Greens is what I have in the rear right now, but stock calipers. Could I add SS lines and be done back there?
C/D + Slotted + EBC Greens is what I have in the rear right now, but stock calipers. Could I add SS lines and be done back there?
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Originally posted by DaveGS4
Rominl,
What's the weight of the AP racing setup? It uses even larger rotors than the Supra TT setup which have to be heavier too, right?
Rominl,
What's the weight of the AP racing setup? It uses even larger rotors than the Supra TT setup which have to be heavier too, right?
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Originally posted by QBranchCars
The AP rotor used in the Stillen kit are 7.7 Kg (without the hat) and the calipers are 3.0 Kg. I'll let you do the conversion to english weight.
The AP rotor used in the Stillen kit are 7.7 Kg (without the hat) and the calipers are 3.0 Kg. I'll let you do the conversion to english weight.
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Originally posted by MasterG
Hey Dex , I'm doing the same thing. Can I put the Supra TT brakes on with my stock 16's ?
Hey Dex , I'm doing the same thing. Can I put the Supra TT brakes on with my stock 16's ?
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Originally posted by MasterG
Hey Dex , I'm doing the same thing. Can I put the Supra TT brakes on with my stock 16's ?
Hey Dex , I'm doing the same thing. Can I put the Supra TT brakes on with my stock 16's ?