what coiloverss??
#18
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did you come to that conclusion the same way you did when you posted "my H&R springs are settling, ergo all aftermarket lowering springs settle"?
first things first. they're at the same price point as everything other run-of-the-mill coilover offering that's made in taiwan.
yes, i just said it. "made in taiwan." the D2's are. just like the megan racing LP/EZ series are. and just like the BC Racing coilovers are. google is your best friend if you really want to know the truth (rather than some marketing spew).
that's not to say that just because all three (and everything else in the $1k coilover category) are built in taiwan that they're all the same: between the three, BCR offers a different shock design, and both D2 and BCR offer different spring rates.
i can't comment on KW's since my blood was never rich enough to afford a set, but from ride experiences they are worth every penny you'll spend on them. probably even overkill for daily driving applications. but if you want the best coilovers for street and track, KW's hand down.
#19
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What project said. Taiwanese coilovers are, for the most part, on the lower end of the spectrum. A lot of the brands share the same design and internals. Mostly what differs between them is the damper adjustment and shock valving. I agree with reyoasian about BCR and Megan LP being best bang for buck, but I would personally recommend the coilovers I used on my old car, AMR coilovers. They aren't cheap, but they are custom made to order and not off the shelf. From the "Order Online" portion of the website:
"Clients placing orders with us for coilovers will receive a call to be given an estimated ETA and asked a series of questions to help us determine their needs."
I got mine through a group buy and got a great deal on my set. If I can afford to get a brand new set of Megans or BCs, personally I would much rather wait and save up for some quality American-made coilovers with custom spring rates and valving for my own personal use. They also come with a limited lifetime warranty, and to date, have not had a coilover come back for a warranty claim. They've been around since 05.
Sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into an ad for AMR, I just really like their products
Mods, delete my post if I broke any rules, thanks.
"Clients placing orders with us for coilovers will receive a call to be given an estimated ETA and asked a series of questions to help us determine their needs."
I got mine through a group buy and got a great deal on my set. If I can afford to get a brand new set of Megans or BCs, personally I would much rather wait and save up for some quality American-made coilovers with custom spring rates and valving for my own personal use. They also come with a limited lifetime warranty, and to date, have not had a coilover come back for a warranty claim. They've been around since 05.
Sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into an ad for AMR, I just really like their products
Mods, delete my post if I broke any rules, thanks.
#20
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What project said. Taiwanese coilovers are, for the most part, on the lower end of the spectrum. A lot of the brands share the same design and internals. Mostly what differs between them is the damper adjustment and shock valving. I agree with reyoasian about BCR and Megan LP being best bang for buck, but I would personally recommend the coilovers I used on my old car, AMR coilovers. They aren't cheap, but they are custom made to order and not off the shelf. From the "Order Online" portion of the website:
"Clients placing orders with us for coilovers will receive a call to be given an estimated ETA and asked a series of questions to help us determine their needs."
I got mine through a group buy and got a great deal on my set. If I can afford to get a brand new set of Megans or BCs, personally I would much rather wait and save up for some quality American-made coilovers with custom spring rates and valving for my own personal use. They also come with a limited lifetime warranty, and to date, have not had a coilover come back for a warranty claim. They've been around since 05.
Sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into an ad for AMR, I just really like their products
Mods, delete my post if I broke any rules, thanks.
"Clients placing orders with us for coilovers will receive a call to be given an estimated ETA and asked a series of questions to help us determine their needs."
I got mine through a group buy and got a great deal on my set. If I can afford to get a brand new set of Megans or BCs, personally I would much rather wait and save up for some quality American-made coilovers with custom spring rates and valving for my own personal use. They also come with a limited lifetime warranty, and to date, have not had a coilover come back for a warranty claim. They've been around since 05.
Sorry, didn't mean for this to turn into an ad for AMR, I just really like their products
Mods, delete my post if I broke any rules, thanks.
Assembled here in the USA...
a little more digging reveals that the springs are manufactured by hyperco, which would explain why they ask their customers regarding usage and driving habits.
it would also explain why they charge a premium, despite the fact that the design is *gasp* similar to eveything in the $1k segment. i'm sure if you price out a set of BC's w/ custom valving/spring rates that you'd get to the same price point as the AMR's.
and i'm sure that the build quality is second to none, but i would be wary of the single lower spring perch that's tightened using an allen bolt vs. the more popular dual locking lower spring perches. i mean, imagine having dialed the desired ride height and preloading, only to forget to tighten that allen bolt... having an unsecure lower spring perch floating around is a recipe for disaster.
i can go on and on, but at the end of the day, most 2is owners w/ coilovers just want to "go lower". i doubt that many care about where their coilovers are manufacturered/assembled.
#21
Racer
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My mistake in wording there, yes the coilovers are assembled in the US, but they do source out some of the components. Still, when it comes to quality control, I would think that they have a more stringent process in place, especially when you factor in the race-specific coilovers they are able to offer.
You're right, most owners just want the ride height adjustability and damper control. Me, I wanted to be able to take my car anywhere in the city, pot-hole ridden or not, and still be able to get from point A to point B without bottoming out every time I hit a small dip, slowing down to a turtle's pace to go over a speedbump, or scraping every time I go up/down my driveway. My girlfriend also never complained about the increased stiffness and feedback from the road. I asked her why, and she said she was used to it from riding in her brother's stock 350z.
I do also like the peace of mind that comes from the warranty. I was also wary of the single lower spring perch, but after 3 years of use in Canada all-year round, I really have nothing bad to say about them.
I would be surprised if BC's custom-valved coilovers were at a similar price point. If that's the case, the warranty is essentially what would sway me towards AMRs. That's just my personal opinion.
You're right, most owners just want the ride height adjustability and damper control. Me, I wanted to be able to take my car anywhere in the city, pot-hole ridden or not, and still be able to get from point A to point B without bottoming out every time I hit a small dip, slowing down to a turtle's pace to go over a speedbump, or scraping every time I go up/down my driveway. My girlfriend also never complained about the increased stiffness and feedback from the road. I asked her why, and she said she was used to it from riding in her brother's stock 350z.
I do also like the peace of mind that comes from the warranty. I was also wary of the single lower spring perch, but after 3 years of use in Canada all-year round, I really have nothing bad to say about them.
I would be surprised if BC's custom-valved coilovers were at a similar price point. If that's the case, the warranty is essentially what would sway me towards AMRs. That's just my personal opinion.
#22
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D2 = high end?
did you come to that conclusion the same way you did when you posted "my H&R springs are settling, ergo all aftermarket lowering springs settle"?
first things first. they're at the same price point as everything other run-of-the-mill coilover offering that's made in taiwan.
yes, i just said it. "made in taiwan." the D2's are. just like the megan racing LP/EZ series are. and just like the BC Racing coilovers are. google is your best friend if you really want to know the truth (rather than some marketing spew).
that's not to say that just because all three (and everything else in the $1k coilover category) are built in taiwan that they're all the same: between the three, BCR offers a different shock design, and both D2 and BCR offer different spring rates.
i can't comment on KW's since my blood was never rich enough to afford a set, but from ride experiences they are worth every penny you'll spend on them. probably even overkill for daily driving applications. but if you want the best coilovers for street and track, KW's hand down.
did you come to that conclusion the same way you did when you posted "my H&R springs are settling, ergo all aftermarket lowering springs settle"?
first things first. they're at the same price point as everything other run-of-the-mill coilover offering that's made in taiwan.
yes, i just said it. "made in taiwan." the D2's are. just like the megan racing LP/EZ series are. and just like the BC Racing coilovers are. google is your best friend if you really want to know the truth (rather than some marketing spew).
that's not to say that just because all three (and everything else in the $1k coilover category) are built in taiwan that they're all the same: between the three, BCR offers a different shock design, and both D2 and BCR offer different spring rates.
i can't comment on KW's since my blood was never rich enough to afford a set, but from ride experiences they are worth every penny you'll spend on them. probably even overkill for daily driving applications. but if you want the best coilovers for street and track, KW's hand down.
#24
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F-Sport Shocks
H&R or Bilstein if they were available....since they arent KW V3.
Would be nice if ST made a kit. They would sell like mad.
Would be nice if ST made a kit. They would sell like mad.
#29
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no issues, i bought them straight from the BCR website. shipping was fast. dont bother to call them, they wont pick up, but you can online chat with someone on the website to make sure you're ordering the right parts, just make sure it's the correct cartridge your coilover make/model
#30
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no issues, i bought them straight from the BCR website. shipping was fast. dont bother to call them, they wont pick up, but you can online chat with someone on the website to make sure you're ordering the right parts, just make sure it's the correct cartridge your coilover make/model
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