Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Spy Shots: 2008 Dodge Viper Development Mule (Update on SRT10 PG2)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-02-06, 09:03 PM
  #1  
Gojirra99
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
Gojirra99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 30,078
Received 210 Likes on 140 Posts
Default Spy Shots: 2008 Dodge Viper Development Mule (Update on SRT10 PG2)



Behold the first images of the 2008 Dodge Viper a 2008 Dodge Viper development mule. Our source tells us that there wasn’t just one powertrain prototype here - there were at least four of these red-hot Vipers with a vinyl-covered camouflage hood and various wires and test gauges - but nothing could hide the huge vents on the hood.

Sources are telling us NOT to expect a 2007 Viper - that model-year will be “skipped” and the ‘08 models will make an early appearance within the first quarter of 2007. And we do know that Dodge wants to expand the horsepower in the Vipers, but the “what” and “how” are currently just rumors. One rumor floating around is that McLaren is involved and has been breathing on DCX’s V-10 engine to get it somewhere near 600-650 horsepower.

source : winding road
Gojirra99 is offline  
Old 06-02-06, 10:20 PM
  #2  
GFerg
Speaks French in Russian

 
GFerg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: What is G?
Posts: 13,253
Received 60 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

I want to really like the new Vipers, but they just dont do it for me like the old Viper GTS. That model in Blue with the White stripes is a classic in so many ways. The new model is very mediocre.
GFerg is offline  
Old 06-02-06, 11:32 PM
  #3  
trent
Advanced
 
trent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Round Rock ,TX
Posts: 700
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by magneto112
I want to really like the new Vipers, but they just dont do it for me like the old Viper GTS. That model in Blue with the White stripes is a classic in so many ways. The new model is very mediocre.

I'll agree with you, I like the older model GTS's better than the new ones.
trent is offline  
Old 06-02-06, 11:42 PM
  #4  
Jewcano
No Sir, I Don't Like It

iTrader: (4)
 
Jewcano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Jax, FL
Posts: 8,754
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

The problem with cars nowadays is that they make cheaper slower cars look similar to more expensive high end performance cars. So when the performance cars come out with a new idea, it doesnt seem all that new to us......
Jewcano is offline  
Old 06-03-06, 03:37 AM
  #5  
BlkGS3
Lexus Champion
 
BlkGS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 2,096
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So they gave it a new hood?
BlkGS3 is offline  
Old 06-03-06, 05:29 AM
  #6  
4TehNguyen
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
4TehNguyen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 26,037
Received 51 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Z06 > viper
4TehNguyen is offline  
Old 06-03-06, 11:21 AM
  #7  
toy4two
Lexus Champion
 
toy4two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ca
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face

Originally Posted by trent
I'll agree with you, I like the older model GTS's better than the new ones.
Yea the Viper only had one good version the GTS. The RT/10 was an engineering joke, and the new ones are just ugly.

You can tell when they have one at a car show and everyone ignores it, LOL.
toy4two is offline  
Old 06-03-06, 12:46 PM
  #8  
GS300Rich
Lexus Fanatic
 
GS300Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 9,392
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I like the older version better as well, but I love how that hood looks on the new viper
GS300Rich is offline  
Old 06-04-06, 02:50 AM
  #9  
Richie
Lexus Fanatic
 
Richie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19,103
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I'd rock it
Richie is offline  
Old 06-04-06, 10:04 PM
  #10  
Pearlpower
Lexus Fanatic

iTrader: (2)
 
Pearlpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 7,075
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Evolving into a real supercar.
Pearlpower is offline  
Old 06-04-06, 10:17 PM
  #11  
GSteg
Rookie
iTrader: (15)
 
GSteg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 16,017
Likes: 0
Received 79 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

Man. I thought it was going to be remodeled


Anyone know if this viper has forged pistons? I remember on the older generation, they stopped putting forged pistons in 98 or 99 (IIRC). Wonder if they decided to beef this one up.
GSteg is offline  
Old 06-06-06, 07:30 AM
  #12  
Overclocker
G35x - RWD/AWD goodness

 
Overclocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,950
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Killer Snake: Is McLaren-tuned Viper headed for production?



A hidden gem tucked away in the basement at January’s Detroit auto show was the Diamondback Viper coupe, an American Specialty Cars concept featuring a 615-hp V10 tuned by McLaren Performance Technologies.

ASC broadly winked when asked if it planned to build the car, noting the company was already aware of potential problems with the concept’s 10 air intakes poking up through the lightweight carbon fiber hood (ASC also used carbon fiber for the roof, decklid and rocker panels, shaving 85 pounds off the concept’s curb weight).

It looks like they’ve tackled the intake issue—note the holes in this prototype’s hood, caught by one of our regular spy shooters, and by a reader in Idaho Springs, Colorado. We hear this killer Viper is already producing 650 hp, which ought to be good for 0 to 60 mph in 3.5 seconds—or less.

Our best guess is Dodge will use this ASC/McLaren project to bridge a 2007 model-year gap, during which Dodge reportedly plans no regular production Vipers.

Source: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...1065/DOWNLOADS





Overclocker is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 05:29 AM
  #13  
Overclocker
G35x - RWD/AWD goodness

 
Overclocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,950
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default IL Report: More Details Emerge on Plans for Dodge's "Diamondback" Viper

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Dodge will respond to the growing number of challengers to the omnipotence of its once-untouchable Viper with the help of American Specialty Cars, Inc. and McLaren Performance Technologies.

ASC and McLaren — a Michigan-based powertrain development specialist not to be confused with Team McLaren Mercedes in Formula One — showed a concept Viper, called the Diamondback, to highlight their capabilities at the 2006 North American International Auto Show. But Chrysler spokesman Dan Bodene declined to comment on the possibility of a version of the Diamondback going into limited production. Since its inception, Dodge has sold about 23,000 Vipers, Bodene said.

According to a DCX source, Viper will go on hiatus for model-year 2007. But the source also kept to the company line of silence as to why. To meet demand, Dodge plans to build a backlog of 2006 Vipers to keep dealers supplied with cars though next year. The issue is reportedly not the advanced airbag requirement that was set to derail Ferrari F430 sales before the federal government approved a waiver.

With no regular 2007 Vipers to maintain enthusiasts' interest, a special limited-edition model could help bridge the gap. The Diamondback wears ASC's OmniCarbon technology lightweight bodywork that shaves 85 pounds of mass from the Viper. A special clearcoat process leaves the bare carbon-fiber fabric visible in places, without suffering from the yellowing that usually occurs with exposure to sunlight, said ASC Vice Chairman Chris Theodore.

Theodore worked at Chrysler on the Viper program before leaving to midwife the Ford GT program, so he has strong personal contacts within the Viper team. ASC already supplies all of the bodywork that is unique to the Viper Coupe, such as the roof, rear fascia and rear deck, so there is an existing corporate relationship too.

Carbon fiber has been too costly for relatively affordable supercars like the Viper, but ASC's OmniCarbon technique eliminates the need to cure the panels in an autoclave, slashing cost by about two-thirds, Theodore said.

The Diamondback features a large central opening in the hood that exposes an array of 10 intake velocity stacks, harking back to the engines of the Can-Am sports car series. "But obviously that is not practical for production," Theodore said.

In recent spy photos, a Viper has been seen sporting a hood with two rows of holes that evoke those impractical intake stacks. The pumped-up V10 engine that lies beneath the concept car's stacks is rated at 615 horsepower, which combines with the trimmed weight for a predicted 3.5 second 0-60 time.

There was a time recently when 500 horsepower was considered nearly unthinkable, but since then enough cars have achieved that level that the Viper needs something more to be considered special, acknowledged John Fernandez, now director of motorsports operations for Chrysler, but who oversaw development of the second-generation Viper. While claiming no specific knowledge of the Viper team's activities, he observed that "Maybe that level is 600 horsepower now."

What This Means To You: By naming the Viper, you will still be able to win bar bets concerning which car is the fastest/most powerful/baddest…at least most of the time.

Source: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=115728
Overclocker is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 06:03 AM
  #14  
Seize
Loves Snickerdoodles!
 
Seize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 19,736
Received 68 Likes on 53 Posts
Default ...

Originally Posted by magneto112
I want to really like the new Vipers, but they just dont do it for me like the old Viper GTS. That model in Blue with the White stripes is a classic in so many ways. The new model is very mediocre.
I feel the same way.
Seize is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 10:18 AM
  #15  
Stage3
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
 
Stage3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 7,379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

McLaren Tuned???? This Viper just got interesting!
Stage3 is offline  


Quick Reply: Spy Shots: 2008 Dodge Viper Development Mule (Update on SRT10 PG2)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:43 PM.