Parted with my F sport....
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Parted with my F sport....
Well, I am sure some of you will be glad to know that I finally got rid of my F sport. Now at least I won't be posting such frustrated comments about the issues I had with it. In some respects it was a fantastic car....the nicest I have ever had. But in other ways I could not stand driving it. I decided to look at other manufacturers and decided on the BMW X5. They are very different cars in some ways, but the BMW solved the things I didn't like about the Lexus. I was a little leary about reliability, but the dealer included a 7yr/100k warranty at a very low cost. So I feel better about the purchase. It is an absolute blast to drive, it has a softer ride than even the base RX (go figure) but better handling, and I get better gas mileage too.
Anyway, thanks to all the friends I have made on this forum who have given me advice along the way. I will be posting my aftermarket wheels and Apexi throttle controller in the classifieds section.
Anyway, thanks to all the friends I have made on this forum who have given me advice along the way. I will be posting my aftermarket wheels and Apexi throttle controller in the classifieds section.
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enjoy the X5
Good luck with the X5. I actually switched to the RX350 from the X5 50i. I just could not deal with the lack of reliability, constant engine oil toppings, and waiting for more down-stream issues to show up. I've had a few MBs and BMWs and have to say the X5 50i has been the worst. To me, I felt as if I were driving a ticking-time-bomb and I just had to move on. I'm hoping you did not pick up the 50i (E70), it has well known issues if you search online.
On the positive side, the X5 was a blast to drive when everything is functioning normally. The handling, the steering feel, and the overall driving dynamics along with power and torque were simply amazing.
On the positive side, the X5 was a blast to drive when everything is functioning normally. The handling, the steering feel, and the overall driving dynamics along with power and torque were simply amazing.
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Glad to know - Its odd that you've been having so many issues with the F-Sport, mines been faultless tbh.
Good luck with the BMW - pics or it didnt happen
Good luck with the BMW - pics or it didnt happen
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I didn't get the 50i. I got a CPO 2015 35i with only 6000 miles on it. Long term reliability is still a concern, but I also know quite a few people who have had BMWs with very few issues and I don't plan keeping it beyond the extended warranty I have. So, we will see how it goes. The price I got was stellar, so i thought it would be a good idea to give it a try. Here are a couple pics....
Exterior wasn't my first choice color-wise, but I did want something light (heading back to Texas in a year) but interior color and fit/finish is awesome
Exterior wasn't my first choice color-wise, but I did want something light (heading back to Texas in a year) but interior color and fit/finish is awesome
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I didn't get the 50i. I got a CPO 2015 35i with only 6000 miles on it. Long term reliability is still a concern, but I also know quite a few people who have had BMWs with very few issues and I don't plan keeping it beyond the extended warranty I have. So, we will see how it goes. The price I got was stellar, so i thought it would be a good idea to give it a try. Here are a couple pics....
Exterior wasn't my first choice color-wise, but I did want something light (heading back to Texas in a year) but interior color and fit/finish is awesome
Exterior wasn't my first choice color-wise, but I did want something light (heading back to Texas in a year) but interior color and fit/finish is awesome
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And to be fair, half my issue with the F sport was my own doing....I should have paid more attention to what I wanted, not what I liked (aesthetically). Meaning, I realized quickly after purchasing it that I really wanted a softer riding, more comfortable car, and should not have picked up the RX with the firmer suspension (my salesman was an idiot who didn't know I could have gotten the F sport appearance package on a base RX). But I lived with it for as long as I could. I even got different tires that had a higher sidewall and were H rated, which made a tremendous difference. But in the end it was just too uncomfortable in everyday driving
The other issue was the tranny, which many of you know I had issues with. It functioned terribly in my car, to the point where my wife refused to drive it, so at least I know I wasn't crazy. Lexus techs noted the gear selection issues and tendency to get bogged down in too high a gear after slowing down, but said that was normal. Drove me absolutely nuts.
Thanks for the well wishes though. I really love the X5, and with the extended warranty I got I shouldn't be out too much money (if any) if/when things break. My only hope is that it isn't so often that the inconvenience is a pain. But it's been two weeks and nothing has broken yet!
The other issue was the tranny, which many of you know I had issues with. It functioned terribly in my car, to the point where my wife refused to drive it, so at least I know I wasn't crazy. Lexus techs noted the gear selection issues and tendency to get bogged down in too high a gear after slowing down, but said that was normal. Drove me absolutely nuts.
Thanks for the well wishes though. I really love the X5, and with the extended warranty I got I shouldn't be out too much money (if any) if/when things break. My only hope is that it isn't so often that the inconvenience is a pain. But it's been two weeks and nothing has broken yet!
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And to be fair, half my issue with the F sport was my own doing....I should have paid more attention to what I wanted, not what I liked (aesthetically). Meaning, I realized quickly after purchasing it that I really wanted a softer riding, more comfortable car, and should not have picked up the RX with the firmer suspension (my salesman was an idiot who didn't know I could have gotten the F sport appearance package on a base RX). But I lived with it for as long as I could. I even got different tires that had a higher sidewall and were H rated, which made a tremendous difference. But in the end it was just too uncomfortable in everyday driving
The other issue was the tranny, which many of you know I had issues with. It functioned terribly in my car, to the point where my wife refused to drive it, so at least I know I wasn't crazy. Lexus techs noted the gear selection issues and tendency to get bogged down in too high a gear after slowing down, but said that was normal. Drove me absolutely nuts.
Thanks for the well wishes though. I really love the X5, and with the extended warranty I got I shouldn't be out too much money (if any) if/when things break. My only hope is that it isn't so often that the inconvenience is a pain. But it's been two weeks and nothing has broken yet!
The other issue was the tranny, which many of you know I had issues with. It functioned terribly in my car, to the point where my wife refused to drive it, so at least I know I wasn't crazy. Lexus techs noted the gear selection issues and tendency to get bogged down in too high a gear after slowing down, but said that was normal. Drove me absolutely nuts.
Thanks for the well wishes though. I really love the X5, and with the extended warranty I got I shouldn't be out too much money (if any) if/when things break. My only hope is that it isn't so often that the inconvenience is a pain. But it's been two weeks and nothing has broken yet!
Going to head to the 4RX at some point?
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I may come back to Lexus, particularly the 4th gen RX. I figured it would be a few years before I could get a good CPO for the 4th gen, so now was the right time to try a different maker.
Last edited by viperdoc; 09-14-15 at 09:59 AM.
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All of this is very interesting. I've read many places where Lexus' 8-speed transmission is horrible in searching for gears. They mostly mention it on the RC F-Sport, but I imagine it'd be similar (i know not the same) as the RX. I'm definitely skipping Lexus 8-speed transmission until they get it "fixed".
I don't know if that has anything to do with the issues you were having, but I thought I'd mention it.
Hope all goes well with your new car.
I don't know if that has anything to do with the issues you were having, but I thought I'd mention it.
Hope all goes well with your new car.
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All of this is very interesting. I've read many places where Lexus' 8-speed transmission is horrible in searching for gears. They mostly mention it on the RC F-Sport, but I imagine it'd be similar (i know not the same) as the RX. I'm definitely skipping Lexus 8-speed transmission until they get it "fixed".
I don't know if that has anything to do with the issues you were having, but I thought I'd mention it.
Hope all goes well with your new car.
I don't know if that has anything to do with the issues you were having, but I thought I'd mention it.
Hope all goes well with your new car.
We also have an acura MDX (2014) with a 6 speed tranny. Drives great. I contemplated getting a new MDX for myself (even though it would have been boring). But the 2016 MDXs have a 9 speed tranny. Compared to our 2014, it too has more of a delay as it hunts for the proper gear during city driving. My very non-scientific thought is that these large cars (the RX F sport weighs 4600 lbs) need more low end torque if they are going to handle so many gears down low. Or else you have the hunting problem to find a gear that will get you into the 4000-5000 rpm range where there is enough torque to move the car. The BMW hits peak torque (300) starting at 1300 rpm....the RX hits it at 4700 rpm, and only has 248 ft-lb of it. And the X5 only weighs 200 more pounds.
Last edited by viperdoc; 09-14-15 at 01:06 PM.