tak06

Love the General Dynamics F-16 Falcon! I didn't know they were called Vipers. That's quite a impressive
& responsible profession Sir!
I agree the new C7Z is quite a machine, but I'd probably stay away from the 1st model yr., historically with Vette's, the 1st yr. of any generation has had it's teething problems.

txes

Evidently not many people's cup of tea.

Due to lack of sales the new Viper's plant is closing for two months. I suspect
The Viper is on its way out.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/automobi...ts-venom.html/

John

ggebhardt

That is not so. The Michelins, if you get them, are very highly rated and very expensive..

sweetboy02

Another tire a thread here, everyone recommended Michelin. Suddenly in this thread everyone said Michelin tires are horrible. I'm confused?

tak06

I don't think you can generalize about one particular brand of tires, obviously Michelins are well known and reputed to be a quality higher end tire used as OE on many Supercars (Michelin Pilot Series such as SS ZP/Sportcup 2 ZP) but perhaps for the RX application this Michelin model was chosen by the bean counters at Lexus, a compromise between cost & performance. So many owners are not happy with the OE Michelins, couldn't be just a coincidence with similar complaints in other car forums.

viperdoc

Thanks, though not nearly as impressive or exciting as it sounds. Flights are thrilling for the first few turns, but 7-8 Gs gets to you pretty quickly, then you are just eager to get out of the thing. The Blackhawk helicopter is WAY more fun actually.

And i agree about the c7z. I may get one in a few years and let the kinks get worked out.

GRPFAN

Not to mention if you wait for the 2nd year to buy a vette, you don't have to pay the $8,000 above sticker price dealerships are asking for the new 2014.

viperdoc

completely agree. It's also about personal preference, type of roads driven on, driving style, etc. They all impact how the tire feels and wears to the individual driver. But I can say that there has never been an instance when the OEM tires perform, wear, or feel better than the non-OEM tires they were replaced with....and every time the replacement brand and model tire was NOT available as an OEM option. And I have owned a variety of cars so far- small sport coupes, minivans, crossovers, trucks, and luxury sports cars (I am counting the infiniti coupe as a luxury sports car.....but it may not be in reality).

tak06

Viperdoc: Sorry to be off the original topic GRPFAN, but my friend sent me this amazing video of a
a F-16 Drone, incredible!

http://video.boeing.com/services/pla...=2684464741001

viperdoc

Very cool! I had never seen that before.