RX350 starts, shuts off, Power Steering Msg
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RX350 starts, shuts off, Power Steering Msg
2014 RX 350. No codes via consumer/Autozone OBDII scan tool. No other priors/indications. Suddenly one day it started and ran for 2-4 seconds and shut off...repeat. "CHECK POWER STEERING SYSTEM" msg on dash. Pulled battery (not AGM), charged 14 hrs on bench, had tested/load tested. Fine as far as that goes. Reinstalled...same issue. Found the funky red mega-multi-fuse to check (2 of them in there holding around 5 and 8 fuses...WTF and WHY?) but appears it's screwed-down below the top level and I didn't have time to remove first tier of inner fuse box. So other things being equal, what am I possibly looking at or looking for...or IN FOR? My brother and I do "most" repairs with Audi, Honda, Saab, Volvo, Lexus familiarity over the years. Dad passed recently, Mom's car, we gotta get her back up and going economically if possible. Any advice or further testing? Do have access to ALLDATA info Many thx in advance. I'me here bc all my similar forum lookups for similar seem to degenerate into some random seemingly unrelated solution like a gas cap or canister...just haven't seen this scenario yet. Thx again!
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Hello Klee33 - Yes, we talk repairs here. Sometimes replies don't come overnight. I would wait for a few days so everyone has a chance to peruse the forum. I've been a member for a few years, and I don't ever recall a post involving a power steering check light in concert with a shut-down. This is the car telling you it's not safe to drive because the steering isn't working. All the steering concerns I've seen here are for a "groaning" steering wheel while turning at low speeds, like parking. I would call the dealer or your trusted mechanic. You may have to have it towed. Just my opinion. Please let us know what your discover. All the best.
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Klee33 - I found this. Hope it helps...
So last Saturday we had a good downpour I had to drive thru some water about 8in or so high. Drove thru it slow for about 100 feet.
Got home parked in the garage and the next evening I started the car no issues. I drove a couple of miles parked came back out 20 mins later and the power steering is locked up. A couple restarts no change. I managed to drive it back lucky it was short drive no real traffic and mostly straightaways.
Later that night I took my code reader no codes. Started up no issues. Backed out of garage turned it off back on no power steering again. Ran codes got the c1555 code. Pulled it back in the garage did some research.
I am guessing the rack got a good bath and water messed with the wiring connectors getting too wet. I sprayed some WD40 over the connectors a good dose. Started up no issues a couple of times. The next 2 mornings so far no issues. I think I read somewhere that another owner had the same issue.
I don't use the car for work so it sits most days until my days off. I am hoping it will not return and just have to watch high waters in the future.
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So last Saturday we had a good downpour I had to drive thru some water about 8in or so high. Drove thru it slow for about 100 feet.
Got home parked in the garage and the next evening I started the car no issues. I drove a couple of miles parked came back out 20 mins later and the power steering is locked up. A couple restarts no change. I managed to drive it back lucky it was short drive no real traffic and mostly straightaways.
Later that night I took my code reader no codes. Started up no issues. Backed out of garage turned it off back on no power steering again. Ran codes got the c1555 code. Pulled it back in the garage did some research.
I am guessing the rack got a good bath and water messed with the wiring connectors getting too wet. I sprayed some WD40 over the connectors a good dose. Started up no issues a couple of times. The next 2 mornings so far no issues. I think I read somewhere that another owner had the same issue.
I don't use the car for work so it sits most days until my days off. I am hoping it will not return and just have to watch high waters in the future.
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You have access to techstream? There modules that may not show codes with a “normal” obd2 readers. can you turn the ignition on without actually starting vehicle?
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Klee33 - FYI the Toyota Highlander 2nd generation is a mechanical twin and the folks at Toyota Nation forum are a lot more repair oriented than the Lexus forum. https://www.toyotanation.com/forum/1...ion-2008-2013/
You could try searching there and checking out their several "Read ME" sticky threads which have lots of mechanical advice.
You could try searching there and checking out their several "Read ME" sticky threads which have lots of mechanical advice.
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Awesome. Thx, all.
Just realized something!!!! Pls advise: If you get in yours ('14 RX350 gas), close door, start, shut off after 10 secs with key in position II...what idiot lights are displayed after engine shutdown by default? Mom only got this this under a year ago and I'm not around it regularly. Wondering if it actually has NOTHING to do with PS and she erroneously picked up on the MIL just by chance...looking for a reason...and "never noticed it'".
Just realized something!!!! Pls advise: If you get in yours ('14 RX350 gas), close door, start, shut off after 10 secs with key in position II...what idiot lights are displayed after engine shutdown by default? Mom only got this this under a year ago and I'm not around it regularly. Wondering if it actually has NOTHING to do with PS and she erroneously picked up on the MIL just by chance...looking for a reason...and "never noticed it'".
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Awesome. Thx, all.
Just realized something!!!! Pls advise: If you get in yours ('14 RX350 gas), close door, start, shut off after 10 secs with key in position II...what idiot lights are displayed after engine shutdown by default? Mom only got this this under a year ago and I'm not around it regularly. Wondering if it actually has NOTHING to do with PS and she erroneously picked up on the MIL just by chance...looking for a reason...and "never noticed it'".
Just realized something!!!! Pls advise: If you get in yours ('14 RX350 gas), close door, start, shut off after 10 secs with key in position II...what idiot lights are displayed after engine shutdown by default? Mom only got this this under a year ago and I'm not around it regularly. Wondering if it actually has NOTHING to do with PS and she erroneously picked up on the MIL just by chance...looking for a reason...and "never noticed it'".
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Oops! Nope. The next day we find out, NOT the fuel pump. Dealer apparently replaced (gotta check Mom's receipt)..the fuel filler/breather/return/etc. ***'y...and solved. From the feedback I got, sounded very much like they were doing the "throwing ***** against the wall" approach. Service writer was a doof. I hate those guys anyway...just salesmen and hypnotists, nothing more. Anyway, supposedly the new fuel pump is in there still and the rest was warranty 100%. And we're good! Fianl answer. Thanks all. No one had this correct btw, but maybe you've heard of it/run into it in future.
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2014 RX 350. No codes via consumer/Autozone OBDII scan tool. No other priors/indications. Suddenly one day it started and ran for 2-4 seconds and shut off...repeat. "CHECK POWER STEERING SYSTEM" msg on dash. Pulled battery (not AGM), charged 14 hrs on bench, had tested/load tested. Fine as far as that goes. Reinstalled...same issue. Found the funky red mega-multi-fuse to check (2 of them in there holding around 5 and 8 fuses...WTF and WHY?) but appears it's screwed-down below the top level and I didn't have time to remove first tier of inner fuse box. So other things being equal, what am I possibly looking at or looking for...or IN FOR? My brother and I do "most" repairs with Audi, Honda, Saab, Volvo, Lexus familiarity over the years. Dad passed recently, Mom's car, we gotta get her back up and going economically if possible. Any advice or further testing? Do have access to ALLDATA info Many thx in advance. I'me here bc all my similar forum lookups for similar seem to degenerate into some random seemingly unrelated solution like a gas cap or canister...just haven't seen this scenario yet. Thx again!
Kevin
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Klee33 has not posted since the post above. in 2019. He no longer appears to be active on this forum, so I doubt you will receive a reply to your request to him.
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If there is anyone with a resolution to the 2015 RX350 starting and immediately shutting off with a check power steering message showing on the dash, it would be very much appreciated!
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If you are open to suggestions and wild guess.. Also this is not a common problem. Fair game to ask, but finding the solution on the net is very unlikely.
My best guess is that engine shut down has nothing to do with steering fail message. Why: If you have steering assist issue the engine should not shut down. If notice the reported problem in this thread was fuel starvation ... either the pump or the failure to allow air into the fuel system. Engine shut down can only be due to fuel, air, spark and timing [or something controlling any and all of these].
Does the engine fire for you with little assist from the gas pedal being held down 1/4 -1/3 down? Any other warning like flashing security? Is your battery fully charged?
Salim
My best guess is that engine shut down has nothing to do with steering fail message. Why: If you have steering assist issue the engine should not shut down. If notice the reported problem in this thread was fuel starvation ... either the pump or the failure to allow air into the fuel system. Engine shut down can only be due to fuel, air, spark and timing [or something controlling any and all of these].
Does the engine fire for you with little assist from the gas pedal being held down 1/4 -1/3 down? Any other warning like flashing security? Is your battery fully charged?
Salim
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The engine fires and than shuts down with no assist for the gas pedal. I have never had to step on the gas pedal when starting the engine - I will try pressing the gas pedal next time I experience the issue. No other warning lights are present and the battery is fully charged. Thanks for the feedback!
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