Driving Impressions and Smokin’ the New Beast
#16
+^^^^! I have to Agree, to me this is NO Comparison at ALL to the RCF's! & what's the purpose of the lil' padded pillows on the front of the seats?
#17
The only beef I have with the interior of the BMW is the...as another poster put it...the half tablet sticking out of the dash. To me it looks like they finished the car and the. Said "Oh sh.., we forgot to implement the Nav. Let's stick it here"
#18
Driver School Candidate
i must be missing something
so has anyone drove this beast? perhaps i need to find that thread cause all i'm seeing here are cosmetics. i test drove the rc-f and f sport and can definitely say the f is horrific. the sport has very good handling and more than anything balance. the vehicle goes about its business very quickly and quietly.
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
#19
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
So why aren't you in the Cadillac forum talking up this Lexus-bashing balderdash?
I think it is wasted on most folks in this LEXUS forum.
Oh...Sachsenring, Germany is a challenging track.
Here are a few documented times on that track:
#88/257 Lexus RCF 1.39.53
#112/257 Lexus RCF 1.40.81
#115/257 Cadillac CTS-V 1.40.86
I guess the "F" cars did ok in the face of the Cadillac challenge.
I think it is wasted on most folks in this LEXUS forum.
Oh...Sachsenring, Germany is a challenging track.
Here are a few documented times on that track:
#88/257 Lexus RCF 1.39.53
#112/257 Lexus RCF 1.40.81
#115/257 Cadillac CTS-V 1.40.86
I guess the "F" cars did ok in the face of the Cadillac challenge.
so has anyone drove this beast? perhaps i need to find that thread cause all i'm seeing here are cosmetics. i test drove the rc-f and f sport and can definitely say the f is horrific. the sport has very good handling and more than anything balance. the vehicle goes about its business very quickly and quietly.
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
Last edited by ISF001; 04-23-15 at 01:49 PM.
#20
so has anyone drove this beast? perhaps i need to find that thread cause all i'm seeing here are cosmetics. i test drove the rc-f and f sport and can definitely say the f is horrific. the sport has very good handling and more than anything balance. the vehicle goes about its business very quickly and quietly.
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
Yes the RCF is a real piece of chit that's why I got one because I am dumb and want to spend my money on things that suck.
#21
so has anyone drove this beast? perhaps i need to find that thread cause all i'm seeing here are cosmetics. i test drove the rc-f and f sport and can definitely say the f is horrific. the sport has very good handling and more than anything balance. the vehicle goes about its business very quickly and quietly.
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
#22
Driver School Candidate
perhaps.
i can really appreciate your response but i'm not about taking sides. just sharing experiences. i've done a little track stuff but very little and it was awhile back. btw, i am on the caddy forums as well.
peace
peace
So why aren't you in the Cadillac forum talking up this Lexus-bashing balderdash?
I think it is wasted on most folks in this LEXUS forum.
Oh...Sachsenring, Germany is a challenging track.
Here are a few documented times on that track:
#88/257 Lexus RCF 1.39.53
#112/257 Lexus RCF 1.40.81
#115/257 Cadillac CTS-V 1.40.86
I guess the "F" cars did ok in the face of the Cadillac challenge.
I think it is wasted on most folks in this LEXUS forum.
Oh...Sachsenring, Germany is a challenging track.
Here are a few documented times on that track:
#88/257 Lexus RCF 1.39.53
#112/257 Lexus RCF 1.40.81
#115/257 Cadillac CTS-V 1.40.86
I guess the "F" cars did ok in the face of the Cadillac challenge.
#23
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
How long do you plan to keep the caddy?
#24
Driver School Candidate
Two things that attracted me to the RC F over the CTS V: 1) reliability and 2) gas mileage. OK, I know I'll be flamed for saying that gas mileage is important for a performance vehicle and that if I can afford the car, I can afford the gas, blah blah blah. However, Lexus did design the RC F engine to provide both. No guzzler tax is a plus.
How long do you plan to keep the caddy?
How long do you plan to keep the caddy?
the most difficult part of buying was paying that $2.6k guzzler tax. sucks!! i'm still not over that. i thought about it long and hard since they also had a new '14 in the same color for $10k less. i made the move for a cpl reasons though - i'm likely to take this pup to my grave and, out of all the coupe models the '15 may have the best chance of becoming a collector. and no, i'm not banking on that. wagons are even more rare.
. . . now good luck with that "f." don't be swayed too much by the car mag write-ups. if u keep reading like i have for decades they eventually write about their personal cars and u'd be floored with what they drive.
cars are personal and most ppl like us have a connection that many others cannot relate to.
#25
Lexus Test Driver
so has anyone drove this beast? perhaps i need to find that thread cause all i'm seeing here are cosmetics. i test drove the rc-f and f sport and can definitely say the f is horrific. the sport has very good handling and more than anything balance. the vehicle goes about its business very quickly and quietly.
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
the f on the other hand is a monster. the fake mp3 type audio doesn't help. u can easily fool the computer into producing a sound which does not match what you're doing with the accelerator. i'm all for keepin' it real sans the synthesized engine din. still that's a nit.
what terrible about the f is the ride. trust me, u will lose teeth if u take this to work 5 days a week. course if u have dentures, leave them out til u've arrived! this is a track car, period. nice appointments but disappointing as even the power doesn't seem to be there when expected especially at launch. given a choice, the sport wins hands down.
that said, i wanted a beast so i bought a cts-v and while it's been over a dozen yrs since i bought anything other than a gs4, gx, or ls, i can tell you that caddy really figured this performance thing out. my guess is the mag shocks. u have 2 modes sport and really sport. both are beat what the f has as stock and i can still do .8 gs on turns without any discernible roll. whatever, the suspension is superb! no understeer and a predictable oversteer to keep the vehicle pointed in its intended direction when cornering. it's amazing!
lex has missed this even with the better balanced is-f. that car was damn near perfect but it was a 4 door and not very pretty. it's time for lex to give up the air bag suspension and get on board with mags. ferrari figured it out,
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