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Old 06-20-03, 02:22 PM
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Hey all
whats better for a NA-T conversion? standalone ecu or AFC/VPC?
And what are you guys running TROUBLE-FREE....?

thanks
ken
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What are your hp goals?
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I don't think there is any comparison. The advantages of standalone will always outweigh that of the piggybacks.

I am running the AEM EMS.
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I agree to an extent. The AEM is without equal in tuning ability. That said, for someone of limited technical means or lacking computer skills, the VPC combo will be a simpler solution despite AEM touting their ECU as plug-n-play.

Feature wise, and ultimate performance wise, there is no equal to the AEM. A couple years from now, it will be mature enough so that people will be able to swap out their stock ECU with little fuss. As it is now, there is quite a bit of leg work involved in tuning, ironing out bugs, and hooking up and configuring the various sensors. There is also a learning curve involved, and you'll spend a significant amount of hours just becoming familiar with the way everything is mapped.
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Default Re: whats better? standalone or AFC/VPC combo for NA-T

Originally posted by kmn5
Hey all
whats better for a NA-T conversion? standalone ecu or AFC/VPC?
And what are you guys running TROUBLE-FREE....?

thanks
ken
did you decide not to sell the sc afterall?
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Yeah, I've decide to keep it,

I tried to delete my ad, but it says I don't have permission or something!?
I got a temp job now, so money isn't as tight as before.
Plus I plan to sell my ZX6r Ninja, with that money I can start buying pieces I need for going turbo.
I've finally talked with Dave H, and his kit is really well priced/

Only concern now, is my stock 5 speed. I'll try and save up for a 6speed manual tranny.

Dave's basic kit is good for ~450rwhp.
And I'm fine with that

Regards
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My tranny (5spd) is holding 450rwhp daily driven just fine.
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I agree to an extent. The AEM is without equal in tuning ability. That said, for someone of limited technical means or lacking computer skills, the VPC combo will be a simpler solution despite AEM touting their ECU as plug-n-play.
I double this
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My tranny (5spd) is holding 450rwhp daily driven just fine.
Mine too, at the 4xx to occasional 5xx rwhp level.

The usual applies: baby the tranny, not many burnouts, no speed shifting, no major clutch drops, no slicks, no drag radials. Basically if you want a low ET at the track, you'll have to break the 5spd in order to do get a good time. Otherwise you'll be fine with the 5spd on the street. Mine rattles a little bit at low rpm, but the synchros have been perfect.
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what would be the best "streetable" clutch for the 450-500 rwhp range ?
ive searched and found a couple different set up's, just curious what use guys think.
i know angel is running the ClutchNet 6 Puck - Stage 3 because of his kick *** site http://www.turboforum.net/lexus/
but i have no clue what the clutch feels like to drive. btw, dosent the sc300 5spd have something that makes the clutch smoother than the na supra ?
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I dunno, but I have to admit ... mine is a pretty harsh clutch .. it is like an on/off switch. It is either engaged or disengaged ... there is virtually no in between. Takes a bit of getting used to, but it is also very streetable. The only difficult time really is sitting on a hill in the rain
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