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How easy is it to steal a 1LS

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Old 09-17-07, 03:33 PM
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Default How easy is it to steal a 1LS

...note i am not looking for information on how... just how easy. if i wanted to figure out how i definitely have the ability to take apart my dash and figure that out

I hardly ever hear about stolen 92-94 LS400s.. i assume the dash placement of the ignition coupled with a dashboard thats (probably) a pain in the *** to get anywhere quickly helps keep our cars relatively safe.


is it as rare as i've come across or have i just somehow missed stories about these cars being stolen?
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I rarely hear of them getting stolen too, though there aren't many around here... so that may explain a lot.

I would guess they're somewhat harder to get into (the lock cylinders are different from other cars, plus stock alarm), and after you're in, the ignition seems like it would be a PITA to get to (unlike other cars where all thieves do is pry off the lower steering column piece).

Also, the parts can't be flipped as quickly and quietly as say, Honda parts, which makes it more risky to sell them. Though the yield on them would probably be more.
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Dude, its so easy, a 3 year old baby could do it, mine was stolen last year, and I can tell you that the security system in this car is pathetic.

First of all to get into the car, they didn't need to break locks, or break glass, or anything of that sort, the way our doors close, you can stick a piece of wire, like a clothes hanger, and unhook the door lock, and get in. And then they just broke the ignition cylinder, and there's a pin in there, you turn it with a set of pliers and the car starts right on, even if the alarm is on.
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Get another special lock for your car. It's called GLOCK 21. (hee hee)
Old 09-17-07, 07:53 PM
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Once had a locksmith out to get in a 96LS, UCF-20 & he could not get in without possible damage. He saw my 94LS & said it was a shame the service call was not for it since he could get in in under 2 minutes.

I have no idea about the ignition.
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its simple as hell, you just need ONE tool.










a tow truck
Old 09-18-07, 10:53 PM
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Everyone with a 1st gen should really invest some time into making a kill switch of some kind.
Old 09-19-07, 02:53 AM
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the old locks are also worn...

very easily to jiggle into.

my friends sc keys turned my car on.
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transponder dangle for your keychain...

friend of mine incorporated this little failsafe into his Toyota Tundra along with some other goodies (like a touchscreen monitor for an onboard computer, for movies, music, maps, etc)

It worked like a charm, and he made sure it wasn't going to be something easily routed out. His truck's console was in pieces while he worked on it, said the sensor itself was embedded behind the radio, and the keychain ahd to be within a foot of it for the truck's ignition to work at all. So far as breaking in goes though...well that's just a matter of buying an aftermarket security system. Don't go all out and do the remote start unless you're somewhere you'll need it, its jsut another security flaw.
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Originally Posted by mac6694
transponder dangle for your keychain...

friend of mine incorporated this little failsafe into his Toyota Tundra along with some other goodies (like a touchscreen monitor for an onboard computer, for movies, music, maps, etc)
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Do you know what device in particular he used for his truck?
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not offhand, but I can ask him...he's stationed in Hawaii right now but I'll see what I can find out.

a warning though, this guy is a wizard with electronics; its possible he just pieced it together. I'll see what I can get out of him.
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i made a really nice magnetic switch for my buick.... if i can find the website with the instructions i will post this.. basically without a magnet placed in the correct spot in your interior, the car will not start. the system is automatically armed if you press a switch placed wherever you'd like or if you remove the power to the battery.

it uses two relays and a magnetic pickup. one relay holds the other relay closed allowing whatever circuit you've placed it on to function correctly.

when you hit the switch (or disc the battery) it interrupts power to the first relay and the circuit is opened.

i placed mine on the cam sensor on my buick, which was a good spot because it would allow the car to turn over and fire for a second or two and then immediately stall. enough to set off my other alarm if it hadnt already been set off and the buick is loud enough so that i'd probably end up waking up anyway.
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