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You would pick the '06, but most wouldn't. Aesthetics alone (I think the 430 is very homely looking), would tip the scales, not to mention the tech side of things.
You make a good point about aesthetics. I'll be the first one to admit the 430 is not a great looking car when sitting next to either a 2000 model or a 2007, but when I bought the 05 last year, I could have purchased a higher mileage 07 or 08, or a low mileage 05. The next one (at least 4-5 years away) will no doubt be an RC 350 or perhaps a GS. I'm just not sure I'll look at the 4th gen LS when I'm ready to replace my 2001.
This is the LS460 forum. We prefer the LS460 in here so of course thats going to be our recommendation, seeing that the OP never mentioned the LS430, and posted to let us know that he had purchased an LS460, so I don't know why we're being chastised for not bringing up the LS430?
While perhaps biased, I do think the 2007's are unfairly maligned compared to the rest of the lineup. I have gone pretty deep down the rabbit hole that is this sub forum and it is not like we are seeing thread after thread of specifically 2007's that are utter bollocks. Rather, the same issues that affect all pre late 2010 (redesigned control arms I believe was then?) affect the 2007's. For what its worth, I am pretty sure my 2007 was one of the last run of 2007's with a manufacturing date of 3/2007, but that is just by figuring the 2007's first reached the US in late 2006 and I think manufacturing beginning in August 2006.
While I realize that general consensus is to not get the first year of any all new model, but we are now talking about a 10 year old car and there are many out there with at least 200,000 miles and I have yet to read too many horror stories. Yes, the valve springs required a recall, but so what? I also think that some 2008 were affected, but too lazy to look that up. (please do correct me if wrong though) It was handled and anytime a recall is performed you get a free tank of gas! At least that is what the Lexus dealers in Florida and Tennessee did each time I had recall work preformed and I think it applies to all dealers, but obviously could be wrong.
Moreover, the first year model "curse" I reckon to be more applicable to other manufacturers than ones as resource laden as Toyota/Lexus. Much like the Land Cruiser, the LS represents something very special to Lexus and they spent an inordinate amount of time developing and torture testing the first 460's before they reached market.
And while they might have taken it too far in terms of time with coming out with the LS500, I would not be reticent to purchase a 2018 due to the perception it will be problem laden.
Yes, the valve springs required a recall, but so what? I also think that some 2008 were affected, but too lazy to look that up. (please do correct me if wrong though) .
The '08 I just picked up had the valve springs done as part of the recall, so you're definitely correct.
The '08 I just picked up had the valve springs done as part of the recall, so you're definitely correct.
In which case, the window noise that I have never noticed in mine and that has a well known fix and a small percentage of dashboards melting where again those affected were repaired makes it seem spurious to indict the 2007's as a model not to get when the mostly the same issues affect almost all 2007-2010's.
I picked the car up and have been driving it for 2 days now. It is different than my 1999 LS but not in a bad way. It will take some getting used to but the more I sit in it the more I appreciate all of the upgrades of the newer model. It would be hard to go back now. The car looks to have been impeccably kept. The interior is beautiful and the paint shows almost no defects. I think I got a killer deal on this car and it has only 80K on it. I look forward to many years of ownership.
I am doing the rear struts, engine air filters, cabin filter and an oil change. Anything else recommended to service at this time? Should the coolant be flushed? Trans flushed? Rear diff fluid changed?
I don't know why we're being chastised for not bringing up the LS430?
No chastising intended. I do apologize for the misunderstanding. I was just pointing out that the 430 is still a decent car when compared to the early 460s. If I've ruffled feathers here please forgive me.
Enjoy the 460 Javelin
seeing that the OP never mentioned the LS430, and posted to let us know that he had purchased an LS460, so I don't know why we're being chastised for not bringing up the LS430?
I am doing the rear struts, engine air filters, cabin filter and an oil change. Anything else recommended to service at this time? Should the coolant be flushed? Trans flushed? Rear diff fluid changed?
Thanks!
I would do the diff, trans and coolant. Spark plugs aren't far off either....but you could wait.
01-28-17, 06:26 AM
