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Timing Belt Change - Forgot to Use Loctite

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Old 11-08-15, 03:59 PM
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Default Timing Belt Change - Forgot to Use Loctite

…on the tensioner pulley bolt. I've got the car pretty much put together except for installing the radiator and filling it with antifreeze. How much of a real issue is this (not applying loctite blue to the threads of the tensioner pulley)?
Old 11-08-15, 04:57 PM
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The factory does not use this type product. Plus, it will causes you to torque incorrectly if you used a torque wrench, which you did hopefully.
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Yes, I used a torque wrench on all the fasteners and followed the proper torque specs for each fastener, including the tensioner pulley - Thanks.
Old 11-08-15, 09:35 PM
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Wish I could help with that question, but I haven't done my timing belt replacement research yet and I need to collect all the tools to be able to do it by next year possibly. If you know of a good resource for doing that job I'm all ears. Sounds like you may have just done your first one, so I hope it worked out for you!
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The factory DOES use this product on the Timing Belt Idler Sub-Assy No.1 pivot bolt. The adhesive specified is part # 08833-00080, or THREE BOND 1344, or LOCTITE 242, or equivalent. Apply to 2 or 3 threads of the bolt, then torque using a 10mm hex wrench to 25 ft*lbf / 34.5 N*m.

As to answer the question of what could happen by not applying adhesive, I don't have a solid answer. I can only speculate that Lexus engineers deemed it theoretically possible for the bolt to become undone even at the specified torque, and that specifying a higher torque would damage something or otherwise not be helpful.
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Thanks for the update. I am going to query one of the local Toyota/Lexus techs and see if they do this (apply loctite) as a standard procedure when they do the timing belts. If they do, then I'll tear it back down.
Old 11-09-15, 07:31 PM
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The Loctote 242 requirement surprised me, too, but the LS430 repair manual is in total agreement with StanVanDam...

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Agreed. If it requires me to tear it back down to apply a thread locker, then so be it. I just want to see what the local techs are doing as standard procedure.
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Sorry about the misinformation. My bad.
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Update. I called our service advisor at the local Lexus dealer and asked her to inquire to one of the techs whether or not they use a thread locker on the tensioner bolt. I was surprised to learn that the techs, as a matter of standard procedure - DO NOT use a thread locker on the tensioner bolt.

So, I mentally wrestled with whether I should tear it back down or leave it alone. In the end, I decided to tear it back down and apply loctite to the tensoner bolt.. Fortunately I had not installed the radiator and added coolant, so I was able to get to the tensioner bolt in a short 30 minute interval. Another hour and a half later I had it buttoned back up to the point where I was when I started. All I've got left to do is install the radiator, thermostat and fill it up with coolant. So, regardless of what the techs do, I decided to make it right so I can rest in the assurance I did it right. YMMV.
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there is a certain satisfaction in doing the repair exactly as the boys in Nagoya intended.
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