Possible Engine Flood
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Possible Engine Flood
Good evening,
Last night I was waiting in line to get some food from tacho bell when "pop" my upper radiator hose had popped off (peice that the upper hose connects to the radiator was broken). So I popped it back on to get me down the road which it did until the car begain to over heat and then had cut off. My dad towed the car with his truck so I could get home. The next day I grabbed a radiator from the junk yard which was in very decent condition compared to my broken OEM radiator. Afterwards I notice that my oil was gone so I top off the oil and radiator fluids. Afterwards I went to start the car but the car did not start until 30 mins of trying. Once the car had started I notice that the car was sputtering and was not driveable sense it kept cutting off. Well to get to the point I check the spark plugs and notice antifreeze fluid in them so I decided to replaced the plugs. My question, how do I get rid of the fluid in the engine? Do I let the car sit for a while or should I continue to start up the car and let it idel until the clinders are all dry. I hope that make sense.
Thanks!
Last night I was waiting in line to get some food from tacho bell when "pop" my upper radiator hose had popped off (peice that the upper hose connects to the radiator was broken). So I popped it back on to get me down the road which it did until the car begain to over heat and then had cut off. My dad towed the car with his truck so I could get home. The next day I grabbed a radiator from the junk yard which was in very decent condition compared to my broken OEM radiator. Afterwards I notice that my oil was gone so I top off the oil and radiator fluids. Afterwards I went to start the car but the car did not start until 30 mins of trying. Once the car had started I notice that the car was sputtering and was not driveable sense it kept cutting off. Well to get to the point I check the spark plugs and notice antifreeze fluid in them so I decided to replaced the plugs. My question, how do I get rid of the fluid in the engine? Do I let the car sit for a while or should I continue to start up the car and let it idel until the clinders are all dry. I hope that make sense.
Thanks!
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I love this car and am very sad that this had happened. This car represents my grind from struggling to making it where I currently and progressing thus further more down the line. I love this car, we have a love/hate relationship lol. I just wish there was something I could do. Do you think if I change the oil it will stop the sputtering?
I am able to drive the car a round but the sputter continues. I was able to change the driver side spark plug's and notice that all of them were dry but burnt out. Afterwards I turned the car on and if fires right up but still sputters but it does seem like it want to stop sputtering. I will also try changing the passenger side spark plugs to see if that helps too but I need to lift my engine because my mount on the side is blown so it shift the engine to the right. The only way to remove the intake is to lift, that side of the engine.
I hope this or something else will help because I love this car and do not want to get rid of it. The last time I checked I did see fluid sitting under the intake manifold but it does not seem like the fluid went in threw the spark plugs because they were dry. Maybe under the manifold is a way it could have gotten to the chamber as you mentioned.
PS: That night I had just got finished installing these rims I receieved as a present and to top it off this Sunday is my birthday... What a week this has been
I am able to drive the car a round but the sputter continues. I was able to change the driver side spark plug's and notice that all of them were dry but burnt out. Afterwards I turned the car on and if fires right up but still sputters but it does seem like it want to stop sputtering. I will also try changing the passenger side spark plugs to see if that helps too but I need to lift my engine because my mount on the side is blown so it shift the engine to the right. The only way to remove the intake is to lift, that side of the engine.
I hope this or something else will help because I love this car and do not want to get rid of it. The last time I checked I did see fluid sitting under the intake manifold but it does not seem like the fluid went in threw the spark plugs because they were dry. Maybe under the manifold is a way it could have gotten to the chamber as you mentioned.
PS: That night I had just got finished installing these rims I receieved as a present and to top it off this Sunday is my birthday... What a week this has been
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It sounds like you have a blown head gasket to me, or a leaky intake gasket. You could probabably get it fixed if you know a mechanic that won't rape you. There are some diagnostics you can do such as a compression test and inspecting the fluids for things that don't belong such as gas in the coolant, coolant in the oil, ect.
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It sounds like you have a blown head gasket to me, or a leaky intake gasket. You could probabably get it fixed if you know a mechanic that won't rape you. There are some diagnostics you can do such as a compression test and inspecting the fluids for things that don't belong such as gas in the coolant, coolant in the oil, ect.
Last edited by BrittonJ85; 08-26-11 at 12:32 PM. Reason: Added new question
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You say you "love" this car? If so, you should have taken better care of it. A blown motor mount, enough to shift the engine, and you didn't change it yet? All that's doinig is ruining more parts. To name a few, driveshaft, support bearing for driveshaft, other motor and tranny mounts, transmission. That's probably what weakened the hose inlet on the radiator which broke, b/c of all the pulling every time you give it gas and the engine moves. You also mentioned no oil after the coolant hose blew off. The two have no relation to each other, if you had no oil afterwards that means you had no oil before it happened.
I think you blew a head gasket, b/c after ALL the coolant spit out through the broken radiator, and you had NO oil in it, you still drove it until the car died. (you should have parked it when the hose blew and fixed that the next day) If you overheated it enough to die then you did some serious damage. My opinion is if you "love" this car then you're gonna need a new engine, if you don't love it you should shop for a different car. Although, I'm not there and can't diagnose it 100% so you should bring it in somewhere and have a professional look at it to tell you what kind of damage you did to it. Happy Birthday dude.
I think you blew a head gasket, b/c after ALL the coolant spit out through the broken radiator, and you had NO oil in it, you still drove it until the car died. (you should have parked it when the hose blew and fixed that the next day) If you overheated it enough to die then you did some serious damage. My opinion is if you "love" this car then you're gonna need a new engine, if you don't love it you should shop for a different car. Although, I'm not there and can't diagnose it 100% so you should bring it in somewhere and have a professional look at it to tell you what kind of damage you did to it. Happy Birthday dude.
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You say you "love" this car? If so, you should have taken better care of it. A blown motor mount, enough to shift the engine, and you didn't change it yet? All that's doinig is ruining more parts. To name a few, driveshaft, support bearing for driveshaft, other motor and tranny mounts, transmission. That's probably what weakened the hose inlet on the radiator which broke, b/c of all the pulling every time you give it gas and the engine moves. You also mentioned no oil after the coolant hose blew off. The two have no relation to each other, if you had no oil afterwards that means you had no oil before it happened.
I think you blew a head gasket, b/c after ALL the coolant spit out through the broken radiator, and you had NO oil in it, you still drove it until the car died. (you should have parked it when the hose blew and fixed that the next day) If you overheated it enough to die then you did some serious damage. My opinion is if you "love" this car then you're gonna need a new engine, if you don't love it you should shop for a different car. Although, I'm not there and can't diagnose it 100% so you should bring it in somewhere and have a professional look at it to tell you what kind of damage you did to it. Happy Birthday dude.
I think you blew a head gasket, b/c after ALL the coolant spit out through the broken radiator, and you had NO oil in it, you still drove it until the car died. (you should have parked it when the hose blew and fixed that the next day) If you overheated it enough to die then you did some serious damage. My opinion is if you "love" this car then you're gonna need a new engine, if you don't love it you should shop for a different car. Although, I'm not there and can't diagnose it 100% so you should bring it in somewhere and have a professional look at it to tell you what kind of damage you did to it. Happy Birthday dude.
Status Update: The car is running but sputters. I placed my hand over the exhaust tip and can hear that there is some sort of miss fire. I will replace the coils as well as disconnect/reconnect some relays just if fluid got in among the connectors. Also I've attached some pictures of the radiator which had broken due to poor age and old spark plugs that were on the driver side. Other spark plugs where the one that I had installed last night.
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Don't just throw money at it. Find out which cylinder is misfiring before you replace all the coils. Do a compression test on that cylinder (the setup can be rented at AZ) and compare it to a know good cylinder. There should be little to know difference in the pressures (I think you want it less than 10% or there is a serious problem).
btw: nice job on the rtv
btw: nice job on the rtv
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Don't just throw money at it. Find out which cylinder is misfiring before you replace all the coils. Do a compression test on that cylinder (the setup can be rented at AZ) and compare it to a know good cylinder. There should be little to know difference in the pressures (I think you want it less than 10% or there is a serious problem).
btw: nice job on the rtv
btw: nice job on the rtv
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Thanks everyone!
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Good to hear it doesn't have a bad head gasket and it's running good. You got lucky, this time. You say; This car never fails after you give it some TLC. Keep up with the TLC and it should last you a good amount of time. You should really get that motor mount changed ASAP before some more damage occurs. I had a 72 Impala that had a blown mount and every time I took off from a stop the hood would jump up an inch from the engine hitting it. It also bent the frame b/c it would land so hard. Get it fixed soon.
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